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Subject: RE: Sanborn copyright
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:06:22 -0600
From: Angie Cope, American Geographical Society Library, UW Milwaukee
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From the Maps-L archives re: Canadian copyright ... but if anyone else
has more to add, please do.
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Subject: Re: Canadian Nautical Charts
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:45:15 -0500
From: Russell Guy <[log in to unmask]>
To: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship <[log in to unmask]>
All the Canadian material is copyrighted and like the British, they
used to be very protective of their copyrights. As they lose control
of the material, thanks to scans, digital downloads, etc., and facing
budget cuts where salaries of staff hassling people over rights fees
is more than what they bring in, restrictions for personal use only
are being lifted. In most cases restrictions on reselling a plotted
map are still in place.
At 05:37 PM 2/16/2011, you wrote:
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>Subject: RE: Canadian Nautical Charts
>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:27:27 -0800
>From: Robert Lopresti <[log in to unmask]>
>To: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
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>That is very interesting. One question I am not clear about, though:
>The rule has always been that Canadian topos were not permitted to be
>copied. (I am told second hand of someone who was fined for wandering
>around a Canadian park with a photocopy, believe it or not). In the
>days of digital downloads I can't imagine that's an issue, but we still
>have the phrase "unless otherwise specified in the material you wish to
>reproduce."
>
>Rob
>
>
>Rob Lopresti
>Map Librarian, Liaison for Huxley College and Government Information
>Librarian
>Western Washington University
> 360-650-3342 [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
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>Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:05 PM
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>Subject: Re: Canadian Nautical Charts
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>Subject: Re: Canadian Nautical Charts
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:33:20 -0600
>From: Marilyn Andrews <[log in to unmask]>
>To: Air Photo GIS Forum - Map Librarianship Maps
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>Hello.
>
>I won't attempt to answer the question because I'm no expert and I could
>be wrong, but there was a release on February 9th about copyright and
>government publications in Canada which might be very useful:
>http://publications.gc.ca/site/eng/news/whatsNew.html#a20101203 :
>Great news! Crown Copyright and Licensing (CCL) is pleased to announce
>that permission to reproduce Government of Canada works is no longer
>required
><http://publications.gc.ca/site/eng/ccl/aboutCrownCopyright.html#permission_not_required>,
>
>in part or in whole, and by any means, for personal or public
>non-commercial purposes, or for cost-recovery purposes, unless otherwise
>specified in the material you wish to reproduce.
>
>Marilyn Andrews
>Data Librarian
>Official Contact to the DLI
>Official Representative to the ICPSR
>Spatial and Numeric Data Services
>Dr. John Archer Library
>University of Regina
> >>> Angie Cope <[log in to unmask]> 2/14/2011 10:24 AM >>>
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>Subject: Re: Canadian Natuical Charts
>Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:45:24 -0800
>From: Jon McConnel <[log in to unmask]>
>To: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
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>Rob,
>You've probably already found where the Canadian gov't sells charts:
>http://www.charts.gc.ca/index-eng.asp
>
>Scans of current charts of Canadian waters are not freely available
>since the data is protected by copyright.
>
>US federal vessels can get free data for their electronic nav systems
>at http://dnc.nga.mil/NGAPortal/DNC.portal and it looks like most
>anybody can download the data, if they have a way to use it. It
>includes much of the world, including Canada.
>
>NOAA's historical maps & charts project has charts that include some
>areas of Canada adjacent to US waters.
>http://historicalcharts.noaa.gov
>
>At DavidRumsey.com, 'nautical chart canada' nabs one result
>http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/s/80kv52
>
>The only other source of charts I used for my master's thesis was the
>New York Public Library's digital collections -- that same search
>gives two results:
>http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchresult.cfm?keyword=nautical+charts+canada
>
>
>
>Jon McConnel
>Whatcom Community College
>Bellingham, WA
>
>On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Angie Cope <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Canadian Natuical Charts
> > Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:40:07 -0800
> > From: Robert Lopresti <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
><[log in to unmask]>
> >
> >
> > Is there a place on the web to find Canadian Nautical Charts for
free?
> >
> > Thanks for your wisdom.
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > Rob Lopresti
> > Map Librarian, Liaison for Huxley College and Government Information
> > Librarian
> > Western Washington University
> > 360-650-3342 [log in to unmask]
> >
>
>
>
>--
>-Jon McConnel
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Subject: RE: Sanborn copyright
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 09:53:14 -0500
From: Cahill, Colleen <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Brendan,
US Copyright is not that straight forward. There was a major change
in 1978 that effects works produced after that point. There are also
some additions later, but the up shot is for works published 1-1-1978 or
after:
"The term of copyright protection of a work made for hire is 95 years
from the date of publication or 120 years from the date of creation,
whichever expires first." - From http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ09.pdf
There is a very nice US Copyright duration page at
http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm that gives a nice short view of
all the various options. You will see there are different variations
based on when the item was published/produced. Whether a Sanborn map is
in the public domain will depend on when it was published and in some
cases, if Sanborn renewed the Copyright. Our searches have show that
Sanborn did not always renew.
Perhaps someone from Canada can speak on their Copyright?
Colleen
Colleen R. Cahill
Digital Conversion Coordinator and
Recommending Officer for Fantasy and Science Fiction
Geography & Map Division
Library of Congress
101 Independence Ave. SE
Washington, DC 20540-4650
W: 202-707-8540
Fax: 202-707-8531
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These opinions are mine, Mine, MINE!
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Subject: Re: Sanborn copyright
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Subject: Re: Sanborn copyright
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 21:49:32 +0000
From: Brendan Whyte <[log in to unmask]>
To: mapsL <[log in to unmask]>
Just a comment from down under, it's interesting to note that while US
government maps are public domain, from the Sanborn comments of late,
private companies seem to have 90 years copyright.
Here in Australia, government (any government, local or
foreign) copyright is 50 years and private companies 70 (increased from
50 in 2005 as part of Australia-US "free"-trade agreement, upon
insistence from the Disney Megacorp), so Sanborn maps held by Australian
institutions would be public domain if published before 1955, and those
from 1955 will become public domain in 2026.
Is there much difference between Canadian and US copyright durations?
Brendan Whyte
National Library of Australia
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