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Subject: RE: [MAPS-L] printing topos, etc.
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:57:54 -0700
From: Jeffery, Steve <[log in to unmask]>
To: Maps, Air Photo & GIS Forum <[log in to unmask]>
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Russell (and everyone else);
The cost includes paper and ink only.
Our agency has a newer working plotter that is heavily used by other departments. We will continue to need this printer regardless of whether we start printing 1:24k topos. For this reason I did not include costs such as printer replacement, maintenance, etc. My own wild guess on usage is that printing of topos would not add more than a percent or two increase in use of the plotter each month.
I don't have the specific numbers in front of me anymore, but I believe the ink and paper were calculated to be less than .25 each assuming 50%? coverage. We then added in another .50 to account for maps of Forest Service lands (near 100% coverage when excluding the ~2.5 inch border), increases in costs, bad math, etc. The ink costs were calculated based on numbers from the manufacturer (HP). The paper costs were calculated from the cost per roll of paper.
Hope this helps (and makes sense).
-Steve
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Subject: Re: printing topos, etc.
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:20:49 -0500
From: Russell Guy <[log in to unmask]>
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Steve;
You mention that your print costs are less than $1 per sheets without labor (I assume a 1:24k topo sheet). What do you include in that cost figure? What kind of printer are you using? $1/sheet seems quite low when paper, ink, printer replacement cost, maintenance, etc.
Thanks
Russell Guy
At 09:05 AM 12/9/2009, you wrote:
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>Subject: RE: [MAPS-L] printing topos, etc.
>Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:24:15 -0700
>From: Jeffery, Steve <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
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>I am glad you asked this.
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>This is something that we have been discussing at our library for the
>past few months.
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>Our budget will not support purchasing maps for even fraction of our
>state (Montana), and the frequency of publication of the new maps means
>that they would quickly be outdated.
>
>The idea I have had is a two prong approach:
>* Print off or purchase maps for the most commonly used areas.
>* Provide print on demand service for other areas in the state.
>
>The print on demand idea is one we are are still working on. The print
>costs are very low (well under a dollar per map), but there is
>significant labor and expertise involved in printing them. The need to
>trim each map also makes this idea unattractive when talking about
>large numbers of maps.
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>Currently, we do not circulate maps and refer patrons to one of several
>local stores who stock these maps(outdoor recreation is a huge industry
>here so demand is high). I have doubts that any of these stores are
>aware of the upcoming changes. My concern is that these stores will
>stop selling them, making it difficult for the public to get the maps
>very easily. We have discussed offering to print these off (limiting it
>to one or two maps) for the public to keep at no charge, but this idea
>is problematic particularly if it becomes a popular service.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>
>-Steve
>
>Steve Jeffery
>Natural Resources Librarian
>Montana State Library
>(406) 444-5393
>P.O. Box 201800
>1515 East 6th Avenue
>Helena MT 59620-1800
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Maps, Air Photo & GIS Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>Behalf Of Angie Cope
>Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:56 AM
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>Subject: [MAPS-L] printing topos, etc.
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>From: "Christopher Thiry" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 11:27:16 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
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>Subject: printing topos, etc.
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>All,
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>After last week's announcement from USGS regarding topos, now what?
>Should we buy a big plotter and print off topos, etc. for people
>whenever they want them? Or provide computers with oversized monitors
>and that's it? What are people planning to do?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Christopher J.J. Thiry
>Map Librarian
>Colorado School of Mines
>1400 Illinois
>Golden, CO 80401
>p. 303-273-3697
>f. 303-273-3199
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>http://library.mines.edu/
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