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Subject: RE: Have Lithographic Print Nautical Charts Gone Down With the
Ship?
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 20:42:06 +0000
From: Kathy Stroud <[log in to unmask]>
To: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship <[log in to unmask]>
Keep in mind, lithographic printing is a much different process than
print -on-demand using a plotter. You need to creating the printing
plates, and print and warehouse a full run of maps. If you are not
selling enough maps to go through a full print run before you have to
update, you lose money. Print on demand is a much cheaper technology
and has probably gotten "good enough" so the charts produced are a good
substitute for the lithographically printed charts. (Compare an older
USGS maps with the maps that we can currently print out to see the
difference between the lithographic process and print on demand.)
Still, I'm bummed to see them go.
Has anyone talked to NOAA about whether they are archiving snapshots of
the data?
Kathy Stroud
David and Nancy Petrone Map/GIS Librarian Knight Library
1299 University of Oregon
Eugene, OR 97403-1299
541-346-3051
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Subject: Re: Have Lithographic Print Nautical Charts Gone Down With the
Ship?
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Subject: Re: Have Lithographic Print Nautical Charts Gone Down With the
Ship?
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:25:05 -0500
From: Mark Walker <[log in to unmask]>
To: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship <[log in to unmask]>
I think the demand for printed charts is just not there. Commercial
shipping uses chart plotters and therefore requires a digital chart.
I recently looked into becoming a NOAA agent. They don't have the nice
PDF files like USGS supplies. If they did it would allow for a print on
demand model that would keep hard copies available. They aren't going to
stop producing data. Maybe they could afford to have the data formatted
and made available. I would happily plot charts for customers. I have
standing orders as it is.
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> On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:39 PM, "Angie Cope, American Geographical Society Library, UW Milwaukee" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Have Lithographic Print Nautical Charts Gone Down With the
> Ship?
> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:38:06 -0400
> From: Fry, Michael <[log in to unmask]>
> To: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
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> NOAA has an FAQ about this. What I'd like to know is what NOAA means
> by their statement [from the FAQ here:
> http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/staff/docs/FAQ%20lithographic%20cha
> rt%20announcement.pdf]
>
> that they have "neither the facilities, nor the budget, nor the
> appropriate authority, nor the expertise to stand up or contract for a
> print-stock-sell operation."
>
> I suppose it's a moot point, but how is it possible that the fed'l
> agency--the one in the charting business for two centuries, and one
> whose charts large vessels are required to possess--doesn't have the
> authority to print said charts? What's missing here? And who, btw, was
> printing Coast Survey charts before FAA took the job if it wasn't NOAA/OCS?
>
> mf
>
> --
> Michael Fry
> Senior Map Librarian
> National Geographic Society
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> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Angie Cope, American Geographical
> Society Library, UW Milwaukee <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Have Lithographic Print Nautical Charts Gone Down
> With the Ship?
> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:51:18 -0400
> From: Holly Budd <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> To: <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
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>
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> The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has announced that
> to save money, the government will stop printing the traditional
> lithographic paper chart, that has been NOAA’s signature product,
> trusted by mariners, since President Thomas Jefferson asked for a
> survey
> of the coast in 1807.
>
> My commentary at my blog: Have Lithographic Print Nautical Charts Gone
> Down With the Ship?
>
> http://mapprinter.wordpress.__com/2013/10/25/have-__lithographic-print
> -nautical-__charts-gone-down-with-the-__ship/
>
> <http://mapprinter.wordpress.com/2013/10/25/have-lithographic-print-na
> utical-charts-gone-down-with-the-ship/>
>
> Holly
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