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>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:39:14 -0500
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Paul,
I thought something like this might be happening. In November I received
a call from Sanborn (EDR is the new owner) asking about the possibility
of microfilming any Sanborn editions we might have that were not on
microfilm already. They also wanted to obtain a listing of other city
atlases that we might have. If you saw the e-mail following yours, from
Kathryn Womble, Sanborn has been given an infusion of cash from EDR
and wants to make some money from their former trash. This could be
serious if they press the matter. So far, I have not replied to their
request. I'd be interested in the experiences of others.
Rich Boardman
Map Collection-Free Library of Phila.
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>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:04:06 -0500 (EST)
>From: David Cobb <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Sanborn Maps Responses
I am somewhat surprised at both instances referred to here. First, I
cannot imagine why it would take two years to "film and reformat" the
Sanborn maps of Vermont. Second, I do not understand what legal edict EDR
has to reclaim maps from any university. The majority of these maps were
deposited with the Library of Congress based on copyright law and LC,
based on the huge size of this collection, offered their second copies to
numerous state repositories. How this could be construed as continuing to
be owned by the Sanborn Fire Insurance Company, or its successors, is very
interesting.
I know that we would not loan our maps for any such extended period of
time. If the collection is that substantial it would seem to make
considerable sense to have the microfilmer move their staff and equipment
to Vermont for a period of time.
This is an issue that I believe we might all be very interested in
following?
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David A. Cobb Tel (617) 495-2417
Harvard Map Collection FAX (617) 496-0440
Harvard University E-Mail: [log in to unmask]
Cambridge, MA 02138 http://icg.harvard.edu/~maps
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On Wed, 22 Jan 1997 [log in to unmask] wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I said that I would summarize the responses to my query about EDR
> Sanborn and the reproduction of Sanborn Insurance Maps.
>
> Only one respondant, Jim Corsaro from the New York State Library, has
> had direct experience dealing with EDR Sanborn and his experience has
> been positive. His answer in its entireity is below.
>
> Several correspondants told me of the experience that California
> State University Northridge had with EDR Sanborn. Evidently in that
> instance EDRS tried to reclaim the maps in the Cal State collection.
> The Cal State legal department is now handling the matter. They
> would like to hear from others who have been approached by EDRS.
> Contact robert marshall <[log in to unmask]> to find out more.
>
> This is NOT the approach that EDRS has taken with the Vermont
> Historical Society. They simply want to borrow the maps for two
> years, make mircofilm and electronic copies, and return the maps to
> us along with one set of the microfilm and electronic product
> (probably on CD-ROM). The two things that concern us now are (a) the
> long amount of time that EDRS wants the maps and (b) whether the
> proposed renumeration (preservation microfilm and an electronic
> database) is an adequate use fee. We are inclined to go along with
> this, but are feeling a little uneasy about how the microfilm and
> electronic copies may or may not be distributed.
>
> Any further thoughts from colleagues are always welcome!
>
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> Text of message from Jim Corsaro, New York State Library:
>
> I have received the same request from EDR which you have; of
> course, they want NYS Sanborn maps from us. We are considering the
> loan of these to EDR, although we have told them we cannot loan them
> for a lengthy period of time because of the frequent use made of
> them here. I do not know what EDR has told you, but they want to
> microfilm our Sanborn maps, not digitize them. Of course,
> digitization of the microfilm may be possible afterwards, with
> reduced quality, of course.
>
> Two things about our Sanborn map experience might be noted:
>
> 1. We worked with EDR last year to microfilm a large group of
> city
> atlases which we have here. We received a microfilm copy and the
> atlases were returned in fine condition. The filming was done by
> Preservation Resources, Bethlehem, PA.. a fine preservation vendor.
> We were happy with the results of that filming.
>
> 2. Chadwick-Healey and University Publications of America
> have filmed much of the Sanborn map publications from the Library of
> Congress collection and from the Sanborn Co.'s collections. We have
> both microfilm collections for NYS Sanborns here in something like
> 170 reels.
>
> As I said, we have not completed our negotiation with EDR,
> but I currently tend to think we will work with them with the same
> type of arrangements we made previously.
>
>
> Jim Corsaro
>
> James Corsaro
> Associate Librarian
> Manuscripts and Special Collections
> New York State Library
> Empire State Plaza
> Albany, New York 12230
> e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> (518) 474-5963
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> Vermont Historical Society
> 109 State Street
> Montpelier, Vermont 05609-0901
> Voice: 802-828-2291 Fax: 802-828-3638
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