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"Angie Cope, American Geographical Society Library, UW Milwaukee" <[log in to unmask]>
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Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Maps-L is on Facebook
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:29:46 -0400
From: Grabach, Kenneth A. Mr. <[log in to unmask]>
To: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship <[log in to unmask]>


For what it is worth, I am not of the Facebook generation (I am only a
few years away from retirement age, in two years I can purchase a
lifetime pass to National Parks for only $10).  But like with other
tools, I often recognize the value in new media.  I like the way
Facebook makes some sophisticated web-based sharing simple and easy.
And again, it is used by professional colleagues.

I do agree that the new group should not replace the MAPS-L listserv.
It is very useful for discussions, queries, and other things.  But for
some socializing around imagery or the fun of maps, yes, I see it as a
useful ancillary to the main forum.

Ken Grabach                           <[log in to unmask]>
Maps Librarian                          Phone: 513-529-1726
Miami University Libraries
Oxford, Ohio  45056  USA


-----Original Message-----
From: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Angie Cope, American
Geographical Society Library, UW Milwaukee
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:19 PM
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Subject: Re: Maps-L is on Facebook

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:        Re: Maps-L is on Facebook
Date:   Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:41:08 -0400
From:   susan a hawkins <[log in to unmask]>
To:     Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
<[log in to unmask]>



Sue H here again - This is *great feed back;* as far as video clips etc
are concerned, those would be merely a link to YouTube anyway. Again, I
think Ken puts it very well. I only notice the marketing when it is
actually interesting to me. 98% of the time it's just a reflex to ignore it.

FB is perhaps a generational thing, but I have come to use it for
professional networking as well.  That's just me, however.

Thanks!

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Angie Cope, American Geographical
Society Library, UW Milwaukee <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

      -------- Original Message --------
      Subject: RE: Maps-L is on Facebook
      Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:40:42 -0400
      From: Grabach, Kenneth A. Mr. <[log in to unmask]
      <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
      To: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
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      My use of Facebook began primarily through my role as a librarian
at my
      institution.  I have found it a way to 'be where' most of my
customers,
      college students are.  They do not intrude on my other uses of it,
and I
      try not to intrude on theirs, either.

      I have also found it a means to share interesting items in
geographical
      and science news that I find.  I am also able to pass along
interesting
      items that others have shared.  I think a Facebook group for
MAPS-L is a
      good means of sharing information about maps, mapping and geospatial
      imagery, as well.

      Of the idea of Facebook as a medium for marketing:  As a user of
      Facebook, I do nothing with advertising that appears there.  I do not
      find it intrudes on my use or enjoyment of the medium.  We purchase
      magazines and newspapers for our personal use, and for our library
      systems.  They carry advertising, as well.  One can read the
adverts and
      act on them, one can read the adverts and not act on them, or one can
      choose to turn the pages without affording them any attention at all.
      It does no good to complain about the advertising that, say, the New
      York Times carries on its pages or its online site.  Facebook is far
      less a medium for advertising than many other digital media, and
      certainly than traditional printed publications.  I don't know if this
      adequately addresses the commercial marketing issue, but it is my take
      on it.

      In short, I find Facebook to be a simple way to reach a focused
group of
      interested users and colleagues, as well as friends and relatives.  It
      is a means to share interests, professional activities, thoughts and
      ideas, in a simple-to-use medium that includes imagery.  And it
also is,
      on the spectrum of advertising and marketing media, pretty low-key.
      Privacy?  Well, privacy is as privacy does.  Because some post where
      they are at lunch or what they are thinking while up at night, doesn't
      mean one is compelled to mimic that behavior.  And I have not
      encountered any misuse or misappropriation of information I have on
      Facebook.  Don't put it on your profile if you want nobody to know
about
      it...


      Ken Grabach <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
      Maps Librarian                          Phone: 513-529-1726
      <tel:513-529-1726>
      Miami University Libraries
      Oxford, Ohio  45056  USA

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
      [mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On
      Behalf Of Angie Cope, American

      Geographical Society Library, UW Milwaukee
      Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:07 PM
      To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>

      Subject: Re: Maps-L is on Facebook

      -------- Original Message --------
      Subject:        Re: Maps-L is on Facebook
      Date:   Tue, 14 Jun 2011 11:32:14 -0400
      From:   Joel Kovarsky <[log in to unmask]
      <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
      To:     Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
      <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>



      There is no point in trying to halt broad social trends, since it will
      not work, but I have some distinct concerns. I do not belong to
      Facebook, and I recognize that some of this is generational (but
      changing). There are very significant privacy concerns with Facebook,
      and pushing everyone to join could split the information posted to the
      list. My own reaction to the marketing behemoth has nothing to do
with a
      fear of technology, but does relate to how they use personal
information
      (no matter what your privacy settings).

      It will be a loss if posts start to be split, and there are other ways
      to allow larger files. MapHist permits some Word files, and there are
      usually ways to disseminate and post documents and photos that don't
      involve all the negatives of the massive social networking site. Small
      bits are fine, but pushing people to this strictly on the basis of
mass
      marketing could create any number of problems.

      While one could create a survey of opinions regarding the issue
(not an
      original thought on my part), one problem with many of those short
      surveys is that they frame both questions and answers, not to mention
      the issues surrounding sampling errors. I hope that others will share
      their thoughts, perhaps in some detail, with the list.

      Joel Kovarsky

      On 6/14/2011 9:22 AM, Angie Cope, American Geographical Society
Library,

      UW Milwaukee wrote:

          Hi Everyone,

          Sue Hawkins has created a Maps-L group page on Facebook. This
          could be
          a great forum for video, image, blog, event and other announcement
          sharing. Check it out ... search MAPS-L at fb.

          This email list will continue to operate as it always has.

          Angie





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