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"Angie Cope, American Geographical Society Library, UW Milwaukee" <[log in to unmask]>
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Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
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Mon, 28 Oct 2013 06:44:29 -0500
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE:      Re: Have Lithographic Print Nautical Charts Gone Down
With         the              Ship?
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 04:55:38 -0400
From: Holly Budd <[log in to unmask]>
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I was mistaken, NOAA is still under the Department of Commerce.
However,the NOAA Aeronautical Charts that they used to have printed, are
now printed for FAA as NACO Charts.

Holly


-----Original Message-----
From: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship on behalf of Angie
Cope, American Geographical Society Library,              UW Milwaukee
Sent: Fri 10/25/2013 4:32 PM
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Subject:      Re: Have Lithographic Print Nautical Charts Gone Down With
the              Ship?

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Have Lithographic Print Nautical Charts Gone Down With the
               Ship?
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:21:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Paige G. Andrew <[log in to unmask]>
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Good catch Michael! That passage makes NO sense at all, to me its a
scapegoat statement. As Holly's blog notes, NOAA used to be under
Commerce until it was moved to be under FAA not long ago, so I wonder if
that has a direct impact on this decision, e.g., perhaps FAA's budget is
significantly smaller's than Commerce's and had NOAA stayed under
Commerce this decision might have at least been delayed, if not reached?

The one thing that crossed my mind as I read the blog and knowing that
moving forward this is not helpful to the needs of mariners on a
day-to-day basis, but the nautical charts we collectively hold in our
map collections and archives have just become that much more valuable!
  From a historical research context at least.

Once again, this decision is a severe case of shortsightedness in my
opinion.

Paige

----- Original Message -----
From: "Angie Cope, American Geographical Society Library, UW Milwaukee"
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Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 3:39:54 PM
Subject: Re: Have Lithographic Print Nautical Charts Gone Down With the
               Ship?

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:        Re: Have Lithographic Print Nautical Charts Gone Down
With the
Ship?
Date:   Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:38:06 -0400
From:   Fry, Michael <[log in to unmask]>
To:     Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
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NOAA has an FAQ about this. What I'd like to know is what NOAA means by
their statement [from the FAQ here:
http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/staff/docs/FAQ%20lithographic%20chart%20announcement.pdf]

that they have "neither the facilities, nor the budget, nor the
appropriate authority, nor the expertise to stand up or contract for a
print-stock-sell operation."

I suppose it's a moot point, but how is it possible that the fed'l
agency--the one in the charting business for two centuries, and one
whose charts large vessels are required to possess--doesn't have the
authority to print said charts? What's missing here? And who, btw, was
printing Coast Survey charts before FAA took the job if it wasn't NOAA/OCS?

mf

--
Michael Fry
Senior Map Librarian
National Geographic Society
1145 17th St. N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20036
202.857.7098
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Angie Cope, American Geographical
Society Library, UW Milwaukee <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

       -------- Original Message --------
       Subject:        Have Lithographic Print Nautical Charts Gone Down
       With the Ship?
       Date:   Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:51:18 -0400
       From:   Holly Budd <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
       To:     <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>



       The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has announced
   that
       to save money, the government will stop printing the traditional
       lithographic paper chart, that has been NOAA's signature product,
       trusted by mariners, since President Thomas Jefferson asked for a
survey
       of the coast in 1807.

       My commentary at my blog:  Have Lithographic Print Nautical Charts
Gone
       Down With the Ship?

http://mapprinter.wordpress.__com/2013/10/25/have-__lithographic-print-nautical-__charts-gone-down-with-the-__ship/

<http://mapprinter.wordpress.com/2013/10/25/have-lithographic-print-nautical-charts-gone-down-with-the-ship/>

       Holly

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