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Subject: MAPS-L: geographic s.h. questionn TOWN s.h.
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005
From: Nat Case <[log in to unmask]>
To: Maps, Air Photo & Geospatial Systems Forum
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This variation in sub-county administration is something I've been
oddly fascinated by for a while. Has anyone seen (or made) a visual
guide to these subdivisions? I think it might be an interesting map,
perhaps shading all the different named divisions...
Nat
>By the way ... the question has been sufficiently answered. Additional
>comments are welcome - but the main issue has been addressed. Thanks all.
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>Subject: Re: MAPS-L: geographic s.h. question
>Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005
>From: David J. Bertuca <[log in to unmask]>
>To: Maps, Air Photo & Geospatial Systems Forum <[log in to unmask]>
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>Hello Beth and all;
>
>Here at University at Buffalo, that was a continuing topic among the
>catalogers. I have been planning on adding a short clarification note on
>our website for map cataloging and just haven't gotten to it. The LC Map
>Cataloging Manual has a definition and without having it in hand, I can
>give you a basic description. For some states, there are distinct towns and
>larger municipalities that are either called "townships" or just "towns"
>that have the same name as the town (smaller unit) within their boundaries.
>
>In NY and PA (which we've cataloged a lot of), there are many instances of
>this. An example below illustrates:
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>3804 B32 Bath (N.Y.)
>3804 B323 Bath (N.Y. : Town)
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>There is a town called Bath, and within its limits there is "the" town of
>Bath (it could have been the "village" or other official name). Bath (N.Y.)
>is the urban area called "Town of Bath" but it is situated within a
>township called "Bath" which gets the heading Bath (N.Y. : Town).
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>The urban center is the first heading above, while the township is the 2nd
>version, with the qualifier "town."
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>In NY the word "Township" is not used so the headings do not use it. There
>are some states (LC lists these in the Manual) that do use "Township" as
>their qualifier.
>
>This of course is the really short version of this. You can almost always
>follow this and be correct as generally, the "Town" qualifier represents
>the larger entity, not the smaller.
>
>IF the township does not have a town within its boundaries that uses the
>same name, then you can just use the "[townname] (N.Y.)" without further
>qualifier. that of course makes it a little more exciting to work on and a
>gazetteer and atlas is very helpful. Also, LC has placed its G schedule
>online and has included all the town/township/village, etc. entries for
>U.S. towns and cities. that is very helpful too.
>
>the big thing is to be consistent when doing this, so that if later you
>realize that you did them the opposite way from earlier works or in-house
>policy decisions, you can at least know you did them all the same.
>
>I know for example, that some of our catalogers were interpreting it that
>the larger township was the unqualified heading while the smaller urban
>center was given the "Town" qualifier. and an argument can be made for both
>ways. The above is based on LC's interpretation and how they follow it.
>
>clear as mud, I know. I hope it was descriptive enough.
>
>David J. Bertuca, Map Librarian
>University at Buffalo
>
>--On Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:49 PM -0500 "Angie Cope, AGSL"
><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>Subject: geographic s.h. question
>>Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005
>>From: Beth Cox <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: OnLine Audiovisual Catalogers list
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>>Hi, all. I'm hoping someone out there can answer a question from a newbie
>>map cataloger. Today I was cataloging a map of a portion of New
>>Hampshire. As per our local practice, I was adding individual subject
>>headings for each town that had a separate street map on the verso of the
>>main map. While searching the authority file in OCLC, I found that a
>>number of these towns had two headings: for example, "Meredith (N.H.)" and
>>"Meredith (N.H. : Town)". I have not noticed this with towns in other
>>states. And as far as I can tell, both headings are listed as valid in
>>the
>>authority file. Which is correct? And if one is correct and one isn't,
>>why are both listed?
>>
>>Thanks so much, in advance, for your help!
>>
>>Beth
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>>
>>Elizabeth J. Cox
>>Special Formats Librarian
>>Morris Library, Mailcode 6632
>>Southern Illinois University Carbondale
>>605 Agriculture Drive
>>Carbondale, IL 62901
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>>Phone: 618-453-5594
>>Fax: 618-453-3452
>>E-mail: [log in to unmask]
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>>"The cats I like best are the cats who
>>take chances" -- Thelonious Monk
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>David J. Bertuca
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