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Subject: Re: Conspiracy of Science
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:44:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Hanley <[log in to unmask]>
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A good theory explains alot of stuff. Does expansion explain the differences between basalts and andesites? The association of andesites with island arcs dovetails so nicely with the distribution of earthquake epicenters and the depths of their respective foci that I would have to see alot more reasons to conclude that subduction has not and does not happen.
Not to be too sarcastic, but perhaps the earth is oscillating between expansion and contraction. This would be necessary to bring the continents together and then spread them apart a few times, happenings for which there is some evidence.
I think you could have an expanding earth with constant mass as long as the density decreased through time. That would mean that, since I weigh 235 pounds today, I would have weighed more than that on an equally massive but more dense, smaller earth some time ago. As the earth expands, I will continue to loose weight because I will be farther and farther from the center of gravity of the earth.
Eventually, I really should be able to leap over tall buildings in a single bound. Oops, that's the wrong super hero for Mr. Adams.
Tom Hanley, Professor Emeritus of Geology, Columbus State University
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Subject: Re: Conspiracy of Science
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:27:13 -0500
From: Jan Coyne <[log in to unmask]>
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He does have a theory about mountain building, but you have to view
another video to see it. It has something to do with expansion
causes some relative flattening, so the crust wrinkles in places, if
I remember correctly. It didn't make much sense to me, but I didn't
want to hurt my brain studying it.
Jan Coyne
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The University of Georgia
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On 19 Nov, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Maps-L Moderator wrote:
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> Subject: Re: Conspiracy of Science
> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:12:30 -0800
> From: Matt Fox <[log in to unmask]>
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>
>
>
> Regarding the water....the entire earth could have been covered with
> water, then as the continents separate, the water moved down into the
> low areas to form the oceans. But the animation makes it look like
> water just appeared out of nowhere.
>
> I'm no expert, but the biggest hole in the theory for me is that he
> doesn't explain at all how mountain ranges form where plates have
> collided with each other. The earth is expanding theory would
> indicate
> that the continents only move AWAY from each other, so how would those
> mountain ranges have formed?
>
> Matt
>
>
> Maps-L Moderator wrote:
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>> Subject: Re: Conspiracy of Science
>> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:05:23 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Doug Bohnenblust <[log in to unmask]>
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>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas,
>>
>> Some very excellent points. I did have a thought as I was reading
>> your
>> comments. Wouldn't there also be more dry land? Unless there was a
>> way
>> for the earth to gain more water?
>>
>> -Doug
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Maps-L Moderator <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Maps-L Moderator <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: Conspiracy of Science
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 7:42 AM
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: Conspiracy of Science
>>> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:15:02 -0000
>>> From: Nicholas Verge <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: Maps, Air Photo & Geospatial Systems Forum
>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>> References:
>>> <[log in to unmask]
>>> edu>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Angie,
>>>
>>> I presume you brought this animation to our attention to
>>> entertain us by
>>> showing an example of sheer stupidity and how utterly
>>> wrong-headed
>>> proponents of the Expanding Earth theorey are. It is out
>>> there with those
>>> who claim mankind coexisted with the dinosaurs. Never once
>>> is it ever
>>> explained why the earth would be expanding, or the answers
>>> to the question
>>> if the planet is expanding, what was its initial state and
>>> what will
>>> become of it in the future. Such a hypothesis would be a
>>> reasonable one,
>>> if we were still living in the dark ages (it seems some
>>> still are) knew
>>> next to nothing about physiscs, the Earth and its history.
>>> However, we now
>>> know a huge amount about these and none of it provides any
>>> support for
>>> this ludicrous idea. Another strong peice of geological
>>> evidence that
>>> refutes the idea of an expanding planet is the presence of
>>> convergent
>>> plate boundary zones (subduction zones and major moutain
>>> belts) throughout
>>> earth history. These mark regions where two ro more
>>> lithospheric plates
>>> are, or have been, moving towards each other, a concept
>>> incompatible with
>>> the idea that the Planet is expanding!
>>>
>>> The only thing I am amazed about is the stupidity of the
>>> very small number
>>> of cranks who continue to advocate such nonsense, when
>>> there is an
>>> extremely successful model explaining how and why the
>>> earths lithosphere
>>> moves and one that can successfully explain the great
>>> majority of smaller
>>> scale earth processes, features and phenomena as being a
>>> direct or
>>> indirect result of this motion. I am of course refering to
>>> Plate
>>> Tectonics, driven by convection within the asthenosphere,
>>> probably one of
>>> the all-time most susccessful concepts in the history of
>>> science, along
>>> with evolution, quantum mechanics, the Big Bang and general
>>> relativity.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:48:48 -0000, Angela R Cope
>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > This video is a Neal Adams animation about his theory
>>> that the Earth is
>>> > growing. This collides with the Pangea theory. Watch
>>> it, you will be
>>> > amazed.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&resnum=0&q=The+Expanding
>>> +Earth
>>> +Theory&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title#
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Angie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> --
>>> Nicholas J. Verge BSc. FGS
>>> Geologist and geological remote sensing/GIS consultant
>>>
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>>>
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