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"Johnnie D. Sutherland" <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:44:46 -0400
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [ Re: recent USGS shipments]]
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:51:01 -0400
From: Patrick McGlamery <[log in to unmask]>


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Maybe Halliburton got that bid too...

-----Original Message-----
From: Johnnie D. Sutherland [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:52 AM
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Subject: [ Re: recent USGS shipments]]


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: recent USGS shipments]
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:25:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Grabach <[log in to unmask]>


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I share Christopher Thiry's questions.  I've received a second shipment
using the old style of 17-inch tractor feed printed shipping list (I
didn't think anybody could get parts for such a printer, anymore, let
alone be able to get it to print!).  But far worse than the printout
quality is the method of packing the maps.

They came in a flat box, a square two-part box with a bottom and a lid.
Of course a lot of packing material, more than with the tubes, had to be
put in to keep the sheets secure in the box.  One 7.5-minute sheet was
too
long to fit, and there was one BLM 1:100,000 sheet (why one, instead of
a
shipment with more of the series?).  These two had to come in a separate
tube, with the shipping list.  No labels saying 1 of 2, and 2 of 2.
When
I opened the large box I thought I had thrown away the shipping list
with
the packing material.

This gives me a horrid sinking feeling that the USGS maps distribution
has
become a victim of the 2000s round of out-sourcing of services.
Everybody was forced into a politcal agenda about this in the mid- to
late-80s, and now the military is experiencing it again.  What we are
seeing with maps shipments looks like some clueless company trying to
re-learn what the staff at USGS had figured out and perfected over the
past decades.

It would be helpful if we could receive some explanation from USGS.

Another helpful thing would be to know which maps that get announced are
going to be acquired for depository, and which are not.  We were
promised
the Iraq maps, and they never came, so I bought them.  We got an
announcement of a new National Atlas map of wildlife refuges, and that
has
never come, although I've never had to buy a National Atlas sheet
before.
We got the announcement of the Lewis and Clark map, and it came in a
month.  We got the announcement of the new North American Time and
Terrain
map, and it came within a week.  I am afraid if I purchase the refuges
map
I will wind up with another copy shortly after.

I will give USGS some credit, though.  Claims for missing items are
handled promptly, and with a great deal of courtesy when queries are
made.

Ken
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Ken Grabach                           <[log in to unmask]>
Maps Librarian                         Phone: 513-529-1726
Miami University Libraries
Oxford, Ohio  45056  USA

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Johnnie D. Sutherland wrote:

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: recent USGS shipments
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:43:35 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Thiry <[log in to unmask]>
>
>
> ------------------
> We just received a very large box of topos from USGS.
> What is going on with the shipping list?  USGS has moved away from their
> easy-to-use shipping lists to retro (1970's) style shipping list.  The
> new
> lists do not include such things as the date of the maps or the number
> of
> items shipped.  I dislike the new style of the lists.  I wish USGS would
> return to its former glory.
>
> thanks,
>
> --Christopher JJ Thiry
> Map Librarian
> Colorado School of Mines
> 1400 Illinois
> PO Box 4029
> Golden, CO 80401-0029
>
> voice:  303-273-3697
> fax:    303-273-3199
>
> [log in to unmask]
> http://www.mines.edu/library/maproom/
> http://www.mines.edu/fs_home/cthiry/
>

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