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Subject: RE: Cataloging question - adding urls
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:43:43 -0500
From: Zhang, Min <[log in to unmask]>
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Angie and Paige:
We are NOT creating separate bibliographic records for digital
surrogates. We handle all digitized map scans by cataloging the original
and add a 530 note and a linking 856 field.
The LC policy is that divisions who have not created separate records
for each manifestation in the past will not change their policy just
because LC will be implementing RDA. AACR2 has the same principle as in
RDA: one description per manifestation. But, we have exceptions to
that AACR2 policy for specific reasons and would do the same for RDA.
Min Zhang
Cataloging Team Leader
Geography & Map Division
Library of Congress
101 Independence Ave.
Washington, DC 20540
202-707-2131
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From: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
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Subject: Re: Cataloging question - adding urls
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Subject: Re: Cataloging question - adding urls
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:56:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Paige G Andrew <[log in to unmask]>
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Angie,
Send your question to the LC G&M Division folk at [log in to unmask] Min
will pick it up and work with not only G&M folk but if she needs to can
also have conversations with other LC units.
Paige
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Subject: RE: Cataloging question - adding urls - off on a tangent
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:56:32 -0600
From: Angie Cope, American Geographical Society Library, UW Milwaukee
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Where might one acquire an official opinion? Library of Congress? OCLC?
Angie
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Subject: RE: Cataloging question - adding urls - off on a tangent
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:14:34 -0500
From: Cahill, Colleen <[log in to unmask]>
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April,
I am not using RDA (yet), so I cannot answer that question. Here
in the Geography & Map Division of the Library of Congress, we are
putting the links for the digital images we create in the same records
as for the original items. We have found this is very useful, as the
patron only get's one record and can go immediately to the surrogate
from the bibliographic record. There are enough fields identifying that
there is a digital surrogate so that we can separate those records with
scanned images from those without scanning. There are arguments that
support both views, but we have found that for items we have scanned,
having the links in the record for the original item is the least confusing.
If the scans were from another source than LC, we would have to
consider if that was the appropriate method. Not a question that has
arisen yet. The closest we have come is for items in our Joint Civil War
presentation, but the bibliographic records for the materials from the
State Library of Virginia and the Virginia Historical Society are not in
our cataloging system.
Colleen
Colleen
Colleen R. Cahill
Digital Conversion Coordinator
& Recommending Officer of Fantasy and Science Fiction Geography &
Map Division Library of Congress
101 Independence Ave, SE
Washington, DC 20540-4650
202-707-8540
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Subject: Re: Cataloging question - adding urls - off on a tangent
To: "Air Photo GIS Forum - Map LibrarianshipMaps"
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Date: Friday, 9 December, 2011, 11:00
Hi everyone
I haven't been in a position yet (I hope I will at some point) to
dig very deeply into the changes RDA will make relevant to map
cataloging--although I have Mary and Paige's upcoming book on
pre-order with Amazon--but I am wondering about Rick's comment that
in RDA you are not supposed to make one record for multiple
formats.
Given the ever increasing number of digital surrogates
appearing for
printed maps, for reasons including improved access, security and
conservation, I wonder about the reasoning behind breaking the link
between the original and the surrogate, which this rule seems to
suggest. On one hand I can understand wanting to be able to search
only for digital manifestations, but on the other it seems to be
doing a disservice to users to make them search twice to find
out if
there is a surrogate that they may find easier to use.
Any discussion?
Thanks.
April
April Carlucci
The Itinerant Map Catalog(u)er
and currently Assistant Librarian for the Library Map
Collection Review
Natural History Museum (London)
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From: Angie Cope, American Geographical Society Library, UW
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Subject: Re: Cataloging question - adding urls to OCLC records
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Date: Thursday, 8 December, 2011, 16:44
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Subject: RE: Cataloging question - adding urls to OCLC records
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:42:35 +0000
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Angie,
I always make the changes you've mentioned after I've
imported the
record into my system. I never alter other people's records
in OCLC.
But that's just me. I don't know if there is a rule one way
or the
other about making such changes in OCLC. I never had to worry
about it.
As time passes, there's one more thing you'll want to keep an
eye out
for. As more and more catalogers abandon AACR2 and records are
created
in RDA, your example will not apply. In RDA you're not supposed
to make
one record for multiple formats. So if you have a record
for a paper
map, you shouldn't tweak it to also include information and
links to the
digital map. You'll need to create a totally separate record,
with all
the fields adjusted for the digital map alone. If you're
institution is
using RDA. Even if the digital file on your screen is a scan of
a paper
map you have in your hand, the 2 formats should be
represented by 2
catalog records in RDA. Now if your institution is still using
AACR2
and not RDA, then what you want to do is OK. But if you
happen to
import an RDA record, and your institution is willing to mix
AACR2 and
RDA in their catalog, then your procedures will change
depending
upon
which cataloging rules apply. Hope this makes sense.
If anyone takes issue with what I've just said, let me know.
This
change over, from AACR2 to RDA can be a bit much.
Thanks,
Rick Grapes
BYU Map Collection
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Subject: Cataloging question - adding urls to OCLC records
Hi Everyone,
Are there any guidelines or rules about adding the urls to
records from
your institutions digital collections to OCLC records done
by other
institutions? So, for example, I copy cataloged a map adding my
holdings
to a record done by DLC, I put the map in my digital collection
and I
put a 530 and 856 in the DLC record.
Good? bad?
Angie
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