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>Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 21:39:06 -0500
>From: "John P. Farrell" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: GIS and cartography
One can be a GIS <fontfamily><param>Geneva</param><bigger>technican
with out much of a cartographic background but to be a GIS professional
one must first be well founded in cartography.
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>From: William Penberthy <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: RE: GIS and cartography
>Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:31:33 -0700
Ohhh, Interesting question that you pose...
Yes and yes. Cartography and GIS are symbiotic, but I see GIS as being the cartography
of the future. As GIS tools get more powerful and simpler to use, it is much easier to get
output that is correct and attractive. And it is MUCH EASIER to do complete maps in a
digital format than in any other format. I know people that do their map design the "old way",
only using "new" tools such as CorelDraw or Adobe Illustrator. To me this makes very little sense.
There is no ability to layer or add new geographic points and information automatically.
Remember the older ways of cartographic design and the difficulties of altering maps? With
a competent GIS package it is simply point-and-click. It is more efficient if, perhaps, less fulfilling.
I doubt that any cartography functions will be done without a GIS package in 5 years.
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>From: Darius Bartlett [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 1:16 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: GIS and cartography
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In the inaugural editorial that launched the International Journal
of GIS, Coppock and Anderson suggested that "GIS is as old as
cartography, and predates computers" (1987).
My GIS students have recently been exploring the relationship between
GIS and the cartographic tradition, and have been trying to answer
the question: "does the relationship between the two disciplines
[cartography and GIS] represent symbiosis, or is it the hegemony
of one profession over the other?".
I would be interested to know what you folks think? Most of you are
map librarians, but I think there are also some practicing cartographers
belonging to both the analogue and digital traditions - and possibly also
some covert GISers listening in to MAPS-L discussions as well? So it would
be interesting to hear your views...
Most of my students, incidentally, hedged their bets and saw arguments
in favour of both sides without coming down one way or another! :-)
Darius Bartlett
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>From: Dino Caruso <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: GIS and cartography
Great topic of dicussion!
Our company Avenza initially started as GIS consultants but always employed
cartographer/graphic artists for final map production.
We always hit the same wall in the end. Clients wanted high quality maps and
atlases to represent the analysis done by the GIS techs. Unfortunately both
disciplines speak different languages up until recently. GIS people couldn't
produce high quality maps and the cartographers would spend months creating
what we like to call an artistic rendering of the actual map data.
We believe the line has becomed blurred. Cartographers with graphic artist
talents will always be mandatory for final maps. GIS techs will always be
required for data gathering and analysis. The two need to work closely with
each other. This is one reason we developed a piece of software called
MAPublisher that is a GIS/cartographic plug-in for Adobe Illustrator and
Macromedia FreeHand graphic programs. This allows digital cartographers to use
GIS source data as a base to start with to make maps. Now both players on the
field can work as a team rather than independant games played individually.
(Please take this as a shameless opportunity to plug our great technology
solution.)
Cheers,
Dino
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