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Subject: RE:      Re: seeking info on 1:62,500 scale map]
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 13:05:58 -0600
From: Sarjeant, Bruce <[log in to unmask]>


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I've got a copy of a 1950 index map for Texas and it shows nothing north
of Kilgore; our 1960 index map shows only the aforementioned 7.5 minute
maps.

Bruce Sarjeant
Maps/GIS and Texas Documents Librarian
Texas Tech University
Lubbock, TX 79409-0002
(806)742-2238 x279
Email: [log in to unmask]


-----Original Message-----
From: Johnnie D. Sutherland [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 12:08 PM
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Subject: Re: seeking info on 1:62,500 scale map]


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Subject: Fwd: Re: seeking info on 1:62,500 scale map
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:42:19 -0600
From: Carol Russell <[log in to unmask]>


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Hi Maps-Lers:

I have been seeking info from the USGS, among other places, about
whether or not there was ever printed a topographic map sheet at the
scale of 1:62,500 covering the area immediately north of the 1:62,500
Kilgore, Texas sheet (the map I am seeking would be bounded by 32.30 -
32.45 N. Lat. and 94.45 - 95.00 W. Long.) I was told by the USGS library
that the Moffat map index to topos (WAML, 1947), which covers maps
1882-1940, does not list such a map.

That area is presently covered by the 1960 1:24,000 topo sheets
Gladewater, Gilmer, Glenwood and White Oak, all published in 1960. We
have a patron looking for maps dated 1936-1950 of that area.

I am also trying to find out if there are any printed indexes (dated
prior to 1967)  to USGS topo maps. I have saved the old printed indexes
dating from 1967 on, and they show how the mapping proceeded from no
maps to 1:62,500 to 1:24,000.

Does anyone out there have an index dated prior to 1967?

Does anyone have (I am assuming only Texas libraries would have this)
any maps 1936-1950 of the area?


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>To: Carol Russell <[log in to unmask]>
>X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.3  March 21, 2000
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>
>Dear Carol Russell:
>       The Moffat Map Index does not indicate a map to the north or
>Kilgore (#199), from 1936. You may want to call the map sales office,
>1-888-275-8747, Ext #3, to verify this.
>       There is a Factsheet on Historical Mapping at:
>http://erg.usgs.gov/isb/pubs/factsheets/fs15499.pdf and several other
>factsheets available online at:
>http://erg.usgs.gov/isb/pubs/pubslists/fctsht.html
>       Out of Print map reproduction order forms are available at:
>http://erg.usgs.gov/isb/pubs/pubslists/plofprl.html
>       You may want to call 1-888-275-8747, #3, to talk to someone. The

>person who made the copies has retired, and I'm not sure what their
>schedule is for these OP maps.
>       Alternately, you can use the Moffat index to maps (see below),
>and request those maps of interest to you from us through inter-library

>from your local public library. There, you can make copies from your
>local Kinkos or engineering blueprint reproduction offices. This is
>slower, but is a free service.
>       Finally, you can request these through a document delivery
>service. Private companies provide document delivery from the complete
>USGS Library collection and other major libraries. They will conduct
>research, locate documents, copy what you need and provide delivery
>according to your requirements for a fee. These companies will also
>respond more quickly to your requests than we can, and will send you
>the results faster than we can through inter-library loan. So if you
>are in a hurry for these items, we suggest that you use a document
>delivery service. A listing of several document delivery companies that

>specialize in the earth sciences can be found on the World Wide Web
>site at: http://www.docdel.com/Geology_and_Earth_Sciences.html
>       Good luck in your endeavors.
>
>Mr. Lee Hadden, MLS
>US Geological Survey Library
>Mail Stop 950, National Center
>Reston, VA 20192
>TEL: (703) 648-4302
>TEL (Toll-Free): 1-(888) ASK-USGS (1-888-275-8747)
>http://library.usgs.gov
>
>*******************************
>
>Reference                            See Serial Title
>045.2 W524op no.10
>        Title  Map index to topographic quadrangles of the United
>States,
> 1882- 1940 /
>       Author  Moffat, Riley Moore, 1947-
>      Imprint  Santa Cruz, CA : Western Association of Map Libraries,
> 1985, c1986.
>  Description  1 v. (various pagings) : ill., col. maps ; 21 x 28 cm.
>      Subject  United States -- Maps, Topographic -- Index maps.
>       Series  Occasional paper (Western Association of Map Libraries)
;
> no. 10
>        Notes  Spine title: Map index U.S. quads.  Errata sheet
> included.  Chiefly tables.   A graphic bibliography of out-of-print
> topographic maps
>published from 1882 to 1940 in the 15-, 30-, and 60-minute series for
all
>states except Alaska.
>  Other Title  Map index U.S. quads.
>  Added Entry  Larsgaard, Mary Lynette, 1946- ;    Western Association
of
> Map Libraries.
>         ISBN  0939112124 (pbk.)
>  Author (FA)  by Riley Moore Moffat ; foreword by Mary Larsgaard.
>     OCLC No.  11344675
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                       Carol
> Russell
>                       <[log in to unmask]        To:
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> on 1:62,500 scale map
>                       01/29/2004
> 12:55
>                       PM
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>Dear Sirs,
>
>I am trying to verify the existence of a topographic map at the scale
>of 1:62,500 lying immediately north of the Kilgore, Texas 1936 1:62,500

>quadrangle.
>
>We have a patron that is looking for information on that area,
>specifically
>
>for the years 1936-1950.
>
>The oldest USGS topo map index I have is dated 1967, "Index to
>topographic maps of Texas, revised November 1967"
>
>This index shows four 1:24,000 quadrangles occupying the space that a
>1:62,500 quad would cover.  They are: Gilmer 1960, Glenwood 1960,
>Gladewater 1960, and White Oak 1960.
>
>Was there a published map at 1:62,500 (or other scale) covering this
>area prior to 1960? If so, how can I get a copy (photocopy)?
>
>Were there printed indexes published earlier than 1967?  If so, how
>could I
>
>get a copy or photocopy?
>
>Thank you for any assistance,
>
>Carol Russell, Map library assistant,
>Tobin Map Collection,
>Walter Geology Library
>Geology Bldg. 4.202 - S5438
>University of Texas at Austin
>Austin, TExas 78712-1101
>
>e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>
>copy to Dennis Trombatore, Geology Librarian

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