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Johnnie Sutherland <[log in to unmask]>
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roelof oddens <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:29:54 -0500
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 23:57:50 +0100
From: roelof oddens <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: "Deep web" and "Invisible web" sites for GIS? <fwd>
Sender: roelof oddens <[log in to unmask]>


Thank you Mr. Thoen,

In the prehistory of the WWW (1996) my site was formed by the real
"Bookmarks" in my PC and the name of it was made automatically: "Oddens's
Bookmarks".
The result: many misunderstandings and, often, my site is citated as
"Odden's Bookmarks".
But since about a year, the only correct name has to be: "Oddens'
Bookmarks",
while my name is:

Roelof Oddens

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Roelof P. Oddens
Map Collection, Faculteit Ruimtelijke Wetenschappen, Universiteit Utrecht
P.O. Box 80.115
3508 TC  Utrecht, The Netherlands
tel. +31 30 253 4401
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Visit Oddens' Bookmarks (database with 12,500+ cartography links):
http://oddens.geog.uu.nl/
Homepage Map Collection:
http://kaartenzaal.geog.uu.nl/

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Johnnie Sutherland wrote:

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> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 10:05:43 -0700
> From: Bill Thoen <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: "Deep web" and "Invisible web" sites for GIS?
> Sender: Bill Thoen <[log in to unmask]>
>
> I've seen it written recently that the big search engines (Google, Alta
> Vista, Lycos, etc.) can only search about 1/500th of today's web
> content. Much of what's out there is either too recent, too deep, too
> esoteric, or stored in unsearchable formats (PDF, mutli-media, etc.) to
> be indexed by these big engines. However, a new breed of specialty "web
> mining" servers is beginning to emerge (e.g.
> http://www.google.com/unclesam for US govt info,
> http://searchpdf.adobe.com for PDF file searches, and
> http://www.ditto.com for images, to name a few.)
>
> I'm looking for sites that specialize in indexing websites of particular
> interest to people who "do GIS" for a living. Odden's
> (http://oddens.geog.uu.nl/index.html) is a good example of the kind of
> sites I'm looking for (deep, broad, high-quality, searchable, constantly
> updated, and specialized in GIS-related area.)
>
> A couple of others have come to light since I asked this question on
> GISlist. These are "The Ultimate GIS Search Engine" at
> http://search.geocomm.com, "The Maps & GIS INFOMINE Search Screen" at
> http://infomine.ucr.edu/search/mapssearch.phtml, and the GIS Master
> Bibliography, now managed by ESRI at
> http://campus.esri.com/campus/library/bibliography/
>
> Does anyone here have any additional suggestions for other notable sites
> of interest to the GIS community? These sites have to be good for
> locating the most obscure or interesting info inside GIS. They can even
> be general servers that are good for ferreting out information about
> business or financial activity (that can be applied to GIS companies or
> the industry), or for searching obscure journals, bibliographies or data
> sets.
>
> Where do you go for info when someone asks you to find endangered
> species habitat spatial data for the proposed Prairie Palace flagpole
> subdivision in Sprawl, CO? Or where can one search the academic papers
> on the current state of the art in spatial indexing (what ever happened
> to GBT, for example?) Who online does the best job of delivering current
> (or useful, or interesting) news and analysis on the GIS industry? Where
> do you turn to first when you want to find out something? I'm also open
> to opinions of where the research libraries stand compared to the 'net,
> too. When you need an oracle, where do you turn?
>
> Basically, I'm looking for the best search strategies that GIS/mapping
> researchers use and the top-level sites they start with for a "deep
> dive" into the 'net.
>
> I'll summarize responses (unless you ask to be left anonymous), so feel
> free to email me directly.
>
> TIA,
> - Bill Thoen
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