Dear Colleagues,



Unfortunatunately the Royal Library thought to free a server and thereby abrogated my 20-year old personal website in September 2015. This meant that a lot of data vanished, like the mathematical data-file and my lovely cartifact file. As the whole was some 350 Mb it is not easy to find a free host, but I'm still looking. Fortunately Joel found one in the web-archives, though it could not always work with diacritical signs. Still I hope the archive-file fulfills the needs of you.



As for geographical coordinates we assigned them to all our map- and atlas-descriptions since we started describing in 1975, i.e.  some 30,000 descriptions (+ 45,000 maps from books and periodicals, but the management found them not agreeable within their granularity-view, so they were discarded in the last conversion!!! Only some 30,000 live on in the paper version of our national bibliography 1994-1999). 

With compound maps and atlases we assign coordinates to the major geographical subject, that is depicted on the object. E.g. an atlas concerning the United Kingdom with some world-wide maps concerning trade and political influence get the coordinated of the United Kingdom.



As for size, I still think "Cartographic Materials" is a good guide, as also shown in "RDA and cartographic resources". Though I find the 300 field for physical description of digital data rather poor. Stating that it is "1 online resource (maps) : $b color" is rather meagre, as the equivalent for a physical resource would be:  "1 map $b color", without dimensions. 

In section "300$c Dimensions" there is no mention at all concerning the size of a digital resource. In the 1990s we put there: "1 cd-rom, 389 files (496 Mb, 520.613.888 bytes)" with a remark in the note area concerning system-demands. This was not only valuable for clients, but also for libraries themselves in the framework of Digital Permanency. Should it concern an ongoing resource I think size could be mentioned when a snapshot is taken (when no permanent storage of overwritten data is available).

I think mentioning these data are even more important in the world of ever-more diverging platforms and base-software and data-storage.



All in all our descriptions are rather extensive as e.g. in http://opc4.kb.nl/DB=1/SET=2/TTL=46/SHW?FRST=1 that contains the series-description of the "Topographical map of the Netherlands 1:10.000". Attached is also a link to an index-map. The latter is something of my own invention and unfortunately not georeferenced to the ca. 2.500 sheets (click on related in the bottom left) that are part of this series. My expertise in this field is not large enough to realize this.

Another example is a 1664 atlas in http://opc4.kb.nl/DB=1/SET=3/TTL=15/CLK?IKT=12&TRM=863444261&REC=* , where in a note all maps contained in the atlas are mentioned in the framework of "Safety for atlases", as unfortunately we have still a mapcutting thief going around this time in the Netherlands. When a bibliography is available (like "Koemans'Atlantes Neerlandici" or "Maps in the atlases of the British Library"), or an index in the publication itself, a reference is made (http://opc4.kb.nl/DB=1/SET=7/TTL=1/CMD?ACT=SRCHA&IKT=53&SRT=YOP&TRM=1789+e+1).



Jan Smits

Senior Cataloguer/Senior Information Specialist (former Mapcurator)

Koninklijke Bibliotheek, National Library of The Netherlands



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Van: Maps-L: Map Librarians, etc. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Namens Joel Kovarsky

Verzonden: vrijdag 23 oktober 2015 15:21

Aan: [log in to unmask]

Onderwerp: Re: "Mathematical data for bibliographic descriptions of cartographic materials and spatial data" gone?



Found it: http://archive.is/SzXdv .



      Joel



On 10/23/15 9:18 AM, Joel Kovarsky wrote:

> Paige & Susan

>

> Maybe someone knows where it went, but looking through maphistory.info 

> (Tony Campbell's site) it appears that virtually all of Smit's pages 

> have disappeared. I am looking around to see if I'd copied it 

> somewhere on my computer and will get back if I find it.

>

>       Joel

>

> On 10/23/15 9:12 AM, Paige G. Andrew wrote:

>> Susan,

>>

>> I ran into this earlier in the year prepping for delivering workshops 

>> in June/July. I will see if I can contact Jan Smits to see if he can 

>> shed some light. Hopefully it has just moved, and is not gone 

>> altogether, because its an excellent resource.

>>

>> Paige

>