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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 16:36:43 -0400 (AST)
From: James C Boxall <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Ordering 1:50K Canadian topos? <fwd>
Sender: James C Boxall <[log in to unmask]>
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I juat wanted to add my personal view to David's comments.
Please, start a trade war....or at least help us do something
that could change some of the policies related to the accessing and
dissemination of Canadian governmental information.
As for the USGS materials and access...
Thank you!!! Thank you for having the foresight to create
policies/legislation that makes it fairly clear that taxpayers
have paid once for their information, so they shouldn't be asked to pay
again. (If you fight a war to get rid of the crown...I guess you don't
have to worry about Crown Copyright..)
Interestingly, I do think there are some sub-agreements to NAFTA which
can be used by the US gov to request the release of our data for the same
price you release yours to us. (AN agreement on environmental
cooperation?..see http://www.cec.org )
What does bother me is the fact that the US can carry on such innovative
and proactive activities such as the On-line digital atlas for Central
America after Hurricane Mitch.
http://cindi.usgs.gov/events/mitch/cent_amer.html
Only through open door policies related to the bits and bytes that make up
geospatial information can we ever hope to do similar things for more
places...and for cross border issues.
(As an aside David, I calculated how much it would cost me to buy
the digital topo data around for Nova Scotia @ 1:250,000 and only a few
sheets at 1:50,000 for Halifax......it's approximately $4500.00...
.oh... and that doesn't include the $700.00 for place names)
sorry for the rant...some of us up north have very sore foreheads..
(that comes from banging our heads against the wall)
cheers
james
James C. Boxall, Map Curator
Map Collection, Killam Library
Dalhousie University
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada B3H 4H8
902-494-3757 (tel)
902-494-2062 (fax)
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www.library.dal.ca/science/mapcoll.html
President, Association of Canadian
Map Libraries and Archives
On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Johnnie Sutherland wrote:
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> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 12:56:36 -0500
> From: "David A. Cobb" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Ordering 1:50K Canadian topos? <fwd>
> Sender: "David A. Cobb" <[log in to unmask]>
>
>
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> Colleagues --
>
> While I'm usually not surprised at what our friendly neighbors to the North
> choose for decisions it does seem to me that there were so few U.S.
> libraries receiving 1:50,000 Canadian topographics that this cannot be
> saving considerable money? It is now reasonable to ask "What are we
> receiving from Canada for $75 annually and is it worth it?" I doubt that
> they are producing enough 1:250K, 1:500K, and National Atlas revisions to
> justify $75.
>
> Perhaps it would be interesting to know how many Canadian libraries receive
> free USGS maps and ask why? The Canadians have now decided to withhold
> maps, have recently decided to withhold water; I wonder what will be next?
> Surely, this seems more important than banana's - a map trade war with
> Canada could be very interesting?
>
> David Cobb
>
>
> At 11:40 AM 3/5/99 -0500, you wrote:
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> >Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:09:11 -0500
> >From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kumar=2C_Ir=E8ne=22?= <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: RE: Ordering 1:50K Canadian topos? <fwd>
> >
> >
> >
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> >Dear Ms. Carlson and for anyone else interested, there is a list of Canadian
> >topographic map distributors on the web. The list is located at:
> >
> >http://Maps.NRCan.gc.ca/cmo/dealers.html
> >
> >Please note that some of these distributors are also located in various
> >states to accomodate American clients.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >
> >Irène Kumar,
> >Information Services/Services d'information
> >Earth Sciences Information Centre/Centre d'information sur les sciences de
> >la Terre,
> >Room 121, 615 Booth Street/Pièce 121, 615 rue Booth,
> >Ottawa, ON K1A 0E9
> >CANADA
> >
> >email: irkumar@gsc..nrcan.gc.ca
> >tel.: (613) 947-3326
> >fax: (613) 943-1549
> >
> >
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> >> From: Johnnie Sutherland[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> >> Reply To: Jane Carlson
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 2:48 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Ordering 1:50K Canadian topos? <fwd>
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> >> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 18:24:06 -0600
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> >> From: Jane Carlson <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Subject: Ordering 1:50K Canadian topos?
> >>
> >> Hi again, Map Experts,
> >>
> >> This question is directed especially to those of you whose academic
> >> collections in the U.S. used to receive all of the newly-published 1:50K
> >> topos of Canada as part of their depository program. Since they're no
> >> longer being provided, even with our annual fee of $75.00 to be in the
> >> program, what are you doing to keep your series up-to-date? From whom do
> >> you recommend that we order them, and is it possible to set up a "standing
> >> order" with any map dealer to receive all of the new and/or revised sheets
> >> just as we did previously from the Canada Map Office?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any comments and suggestions you can make.
> >>
> >> Jane Carlson
> >> Map Collection Assistant
> >> University of Iowa Libraries [log in to unmask]
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