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Subject: Re: [Fwd: RE: map publishers and Map Link]
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:27:09 -0400
From: Russell Guy <[log in to unmask]>
To: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
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As Ken mentioned, all of the Map Link-Gizimap
co-produced maps are all available under the
Gizimap name. As her US distributor, we have
stock of all of her titles, in both folded and
rolled format. This includes her latest map,
co-produced with us, for Afghanistan and Pakistan
(details here http://www.omnimap.com/catalog/new/10-july.htm#p4).
Cheers
Russell
At 03:01 PM 8/5/2010, you wrote:
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: RE: map publishers and Map Link
>Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 14:55:34 -0400
>From: Grabach, Kenneth A. Mr. <[log in to unmask]>
>To: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
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>Thanks, Lori.
>
>I have been receiving a variety of
>communications since my update. I am sorrowing
>for this, as well. I always felt that Map Link
>was a good operation, they always kept their
>website up-to-date with quantities in stock of
>each title, so I never feared for a back order
>or failure to fulfill. My acquisitions
>librarian shared the sense of loss I am
>experiencing with this news. Pretty much all
>the maps they actually produced in the past
>decade were co-published with Gizi Maps in
>Budapest. That firm produces maps under their own name, so I don't fear there.
>
>For Canadian maps other than ITMB, I have valued
>World of Maps, in Ottawa. They still seem to be
>in business, I recently received a large order of Canada cities from them.
>
>Ken
>
>Ken Grabach <[log in to unmask]>
>Maps Librarian Phone: 513-529-1726
>Miami University Libraries
>Oxford, Ohio 45056 USA
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map
>Librarianship [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Angie Cope
>Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:49 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: map publishers and Map Link
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: RE: map publishers and Map Link
>Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:38:24 -0700
>From: Lori Sugden <[log in to unmask]>
>To: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
><[log in to unmask]>
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>Thanks for letting us know more, Ken, and I
>second your "plug" for paper
>maps. Unfortunately Map Link is in bankruptcy
>(see Jack Joyce's latest newsletter on the ITMB
>website), to my sorrow. They have produced some
>nice maps, and as a vendor, provided interesting
>works from other publishers as well. --Lori
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map
>Librarianship [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Angie Cope
>Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:55 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Canadian map publishers
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>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: RE: Canadian map publishers
>Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 09:52:38 -0400
>From: Grabach, Kenneth A. Mr. <[log in to unmask]>
>To: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
><[log in to unmask]>
>References: <[log in to unmask]>
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>To all, including responders to me directly.
>
>
>
>Lori Sugden's message, quoting a synopsis from
>Jack Joyce puts the situation very nicely, I
>think. I had refrained from sending a summary
>because the information I received describes
>some unpleasant business in Canadian road map
>publishing. I had Mr Joyce of ITMB Publishing,
>in the Vancouver, B.C. area, recommended to
>me. I got in touch with him and received two
>very fine messages. Again, the quoted passage
>below succinctly describes the situation.
>
>
>
>I want to thank Jack Joyce here for the gracious
>attention he paid to my query and follow-up
>questions. I also want to thank Russell Guy of
>Omni Maps, Burlington, N.C., for initial
>information and for directing me to Jack. I
>received information from David Jones of
>University of Alberta, and from Roger Wheate at
>University of Northern British Columbia.
>
>
>
>These descriptions vary somewhat in terms of
>ownership and succession, which suggests a more
>tangled web than initially appears. As Mr Joyce
>is a fellow player in the world of Canadian
>commercial map publishers, I will defer to his
>inside knowledge. MapArt had been a major
>publisher, of city maps, and especially of city
>atlas books. Peter Heiler, Ltd was a
>distributor of these. In Québec, JDMGéo was
>distributor, and especially distributed the maps
>of Québec and its cities, marketing them
>under their own name. Now Peter Heiler, which took over Rand McNally
>Canada, is operating as Canadian Cartographics
>Corporation. They seem to be gradually
>supplanting the MapArt and JDMGéo maps under
>the new name. Again, as I mentioned in my
>initial query, the same ISBN numbers appear to
>be retained for these maps. To add to the
>confusion, MapArt, Peter Heiler, and CCC all had
>or continue operations in various suburban communities of Toronto, Ontario.
>
>
>
>I know that MapArt products are still being sold
>by various vendors, but of course will not be
>replaced as supplies are depleted. Canadian
>Cartographics maps, under that name, are
>beginning to appear, beginning, it seems, with
>major cities. These are probably the ones that
>sell in largest numbers (e.g. Halifax, Toronto, Ottawa, Winnipeg).
>
>
>
>I hope this helps if others of you have had similar questions.
>
>
>
>P.S.
>
>
>
>Allow me to make a plug for the map vendors and
>distributors, which I still depend upon for a
>variety of maps. I still buy some printed maps
>of countries and regions of the world. They
>make excellent reference maps of a medium scale,
>that students and others here like to use for
>various projects in Geography and other
>courses. City maps of various areas of the
>world are prized by Architecture students and
>others for their projects. Map Link in Santa
>Monica, California, World of Maps in Ottawa,
>Ontario, Mexico Maps, also of Santa Monica, and
>of course Omni Maps, in North Carolina, are
>vendors I have come to rely upon for various
>materials. Maps Gone Tomorrow, in Austin,
>Texas, has sometimes provided maps of Latin America.
>
>
>
>Electronic maps in various formats are playing a
>greater role, but printed maps are still needed for many uses.
>
>
>
>Ken Grabach <[log in to unmask]>
>
>Maps Librarian Phone: 513-529-1726
>
>Miami University Libraries
>
>Oxford, Ohio 45056 USA
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map
>Librarianship [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Angie Cope
>Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:58 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Canadian map publishers
>
>
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>-------- Original Message --------
>
>Subject: RE: Canadian map publishers
>
>Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 16:28:23 -0700
>
>From: Lori Sugden <[log in to unmask]>
>
>To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
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>CC: Jack Joyce <[log in to unmask]>
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>References:
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>Hi Ken,
>
>
>
>Bless Jack Joyce's (ITMB) heart-- he had a note
>in his Axis newsletter back in April about this.
>
>
>
>"... Mapart Publishing in Canada discontinued
>folded paper maps sometime within the last
>couple of months. This came to my attention from
>a customer who wanted a particular title that I
>didnât have in my retail store. I advised him
>to contact Mapart directly, via their website.
>He did, and reported back that all the paper
>maps except street atlases had been removed from
>the site. Mapart was the dominant player in the
>map trade in Canada. Rand McNally sold their
>Canadian subsidiary to a principal player in
>Mapartâs marketing arm a couple of years ago,
>and the new firm has consolidated publishing and
>marketing under the name Canadian Cartographics.
>As inventory depleted, the Mapart artwork was
>retired and replaced by CCC-modified Rand
>McNally Canada artwork; thus, the Mapart line
>shrank in size steadily. Mapart book atlases
>continue to be updated and marketed, and Mapart
>sales reps continue to market CCC maps, as well as the former Rand products."
>
>--Lori
>
>
>
>Lori Sugden, Map Library, UVic
>
>[log in to unmask], phone (250) 721-7356
>
>http://library.uvic.ca/site/dept/map
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>-----Original Message-----
>
>From: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map
>Librarianship [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Angie Cope
>
>Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:28 AM
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>To: [log in to unmask]
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>Subject: Canadian map publishers
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>
>----- Forwarded Message -----
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>From: "Kenneth A. Mr. Grabach" <[log in to unmask]>
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>To: "Air Photo Maps, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship"
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>Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:19:23 AM
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>Subject: Canadian map publishers
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>I have acquired some recently published city
>maps for some Canadian cities. I am noticing
>an interesting thing here, not sure if it
>matters or what the answer is. Several are
>from a publisher I have purchased from before,
>MapArt Publishing, in Oshawa, Ontario. The
>ISBN prefix is 1-55368. A publisher of Québec
>cities is JDMGéo, Ville St-Laurent, Québec,
>which uses the same prefix and shows
>www.mapart.com as web address. That is simple
>enough, it is a Québec-based affiliate or
>distributor for the Francophone region. But
>here is the real conundrum. Some major cities,
>in recent editions, are published y Canadian
>Cartographics Corp., Markham, Ontario, web
>address cccmaps.com. These have the same ISBN
>prefix, 1-55368. Searching an individual ISBN
>in OCLC yields earlier MapArt editions of the
>same city, and this publisher does not appear in corporate name searches.
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>If anyone has information to share, it might be
>useful here. Are these the same entity under
>different names, locations, and web
>addresses? Does it reflect a transfer of
>rights, or cartography by one entity and distribution by another?
>
>
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>
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>
>Ken
>Grabach
><[log in to unmask]>
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>
>
>Maps Librarian Phone:
>513-529-1726
>
>
>
>Miami University Libraries
>
>
>
>Oxford, Ohio 45056 USA
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