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Johnnie Sutherland <[log in to unmask]>
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Tony Campbell <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:26:05 -0500
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:04:03 +0000
From: Tony Campbell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Web index of map images?
 
 
             {posted to lismaps, Maps-L, MapHist}
 
     Now that you have returned to your desks, reinvigorated after the
     holiday, I wonder if you would feel like responding to the
     outrageous things I say below!  Like others, I am in prophetic
     mood about the future of the World Wide Web.  Unlike some, I feel
     that we can perhaps help to *direct* that future.  In particular,
     I wonder why we appear not to be thinking about organising the map
     images on the WWW.
 
     It seems accepted that images are an important feature of the
     WWW, for some people the *most* important part.  Perhaps the time
     is right for some challenging analysis of the way that map images
     are currently handled on the Web.
 
     Why are images put on web-pages?  What is the purpose?  More
     relevantly, what use is made of them?  [I am assuming that, for
     commercial reasons, we are, broadly, talking about
     out-of-copyright material only].
 
     I imagine - and no doubt you can give other answers - that the
     uses are seen as:
 
        1. An added, illustrative element to a catalogue description
     [as, for example, in Peter van der Krogt's published revision of
     Koeman's "Atlantes Neerlandici"].  This is likely to be a
     'thumbnail' image, intended for no more than general recognition.
 
        2. A resource for private individuals who can then download
     and reuse.  Since the service is likely to be free, the owning
     institution will often degrade the quality to protect its photo
     revenue.
 
        3. A priced resource for professional picture researchers seeking
     high quality images for publication.
 
     The WWW is anarchic, and some people defend that quality with
     religious zeal.  However, others prefer to spend, rather than
     waste, their time online.  It seems to me - as the organiser of
     the History of Cartography's gateway site (for which I can find
     few parallels) - that the handling of map images on the WWW
     reflects the needs of the webmaster rather more than those of
     any anticipated users.  An analogy with the display windows of
     a department store seems reasonable, since 'fashion' demands
     that a web-page have images.
 
     I am not a user of map images - my own page is pure information
     - and I may be revealing my ignorance. But the approach appears
     to me fragmented, inconsistent, inward-looking.  I see no signs
     of collaboration and co-operation.  Roelof Oddens heroically
     lists, in his Oddens's Bookmarks, sites with map images.  He
     sensibly arranges these geographically.  That is fine if you
     want to locate a map databank whose images are *defined*
     geographically, or if, say, you want to check out a Texas site
     for maps of Texas.   But non-current maps are spreadly widely
     and unpredictably.
 
     What does the user want?  Here am I more confident.  Something
     entirely different - a union catalogue approach.  The WWW
     could/should free us from geography.  The image I am searching
     could be in Baltimore, Birmingham (either) or Brussels.  It
     makes no difference to me.  What I want is the ability to enter
     a *single search* across *all* the relevant sites.  If I seek a
     known map, I would probably search by mapmaker/publisher and
     title or area.  If for an unknown item, via a geographical
     hierarchical index, refinable by date and/or subject.
 
     The technology exists.  But has anybody even thought about
     this, let alone written about it?
 
     Suspecting that the world of art history (with its Getty
     millions) might be ahead of us, I spent time over the holidays
     looking to see if they were pursuing this approach.  And I did
     indeed find such a site:
        http://www.gii.getty.edu/arthur/
     "Arthur (ART media and text HUb and Retrieval System), a
     demonstration project currently under development in Getty
     Information Institute's Technology Research & Development
     group. Arthur uses the AMORE image system, developed by NEC
     USA, Inc. to index and search 30,000 images and associated
     text of 300 selected Websites organized into five databases."
 
     Do you know of any other attempts to index images *across* sites?
      For indexing to be effective, I imagine there has to be prior
     agreement about metadata standards (even if at a rudimentary
     level).  Maybe the UK-based ROADS (Resource Organisation And
     Discovery in Subject-based services) -
     <http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/metadata/roads/what/ > could be relevant
     here.  Perhaps, if something was started, future webmasters might
     apply the agreed standards at the outset.  Others might then
     convert so as to be part of a successful venture.
 
     So, finally:
 
     * are we, at present, doing anything about indexing map images?
     * could we be doing it?
     * should we be doing it?
     * if we could and should, who will respond to the challenge?
     * how - in very *practical* terms - might we go about it?
 
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     Tony Campbell, Map Librarian
     British Library Map Library
     96 Euston Road
     London NW1 2DB
 
     Phone: 0171 412 7525   International:  +44 171 412 7525
     Fax:   0171 412 7780   International:  +44 171 412 7780
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     Please see, bookmark and PROVIDE LINKS to:-
 
     1. The British Library Map Library homepage
     http://www.bl.uk/collections/maps
 
     2. The History of Cartography homepage
     http://www.ihrinfo.ac.uk/maps/
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