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Subject: RE: USGS Forest Service Revised Quads]
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 13:21:14 -0500
From: Dienes, Jennie <[log in to unmask]>


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Dear Kathleen,
   At the following web site:
http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/fdlp/pubs/proceedings/00pro7.html I
found this explanation:


Single Edition Quadrangle

In 1992 Forest Service entered an interagency agreement with USGS to
produce 1:24,000 scale maps over forests.

Maps are produced by the Forest Service, to USGS standards.

- With Forest Service information as well.

USGS prints and distributes the maps for the Forest Service.
Primarily used for administrative purposes.


   At the Univ. of Kansas we also interfile the new Forest Service maps
in with the "regular" quads.

   The older sets of Forest Service "(Name of) Forest" maps were done as
sets covering the entire forest--and catalogued as sets.  If there are
records on OCLC for those, the records will be for the set.

   We subscribe to MARCIVE records and match newly received sheets to
those.  When I worked in the map collection, we found that, the SuDoc
Number in the records for maps that are "modified" to include forest
information usually reflected the cutter for the forest rather than the
usual SuDoc Number for 1:24K sheets. The coordinates that were in the
records were coordinates for the forest, not necessarily for the
individual sheet.  Sometimes the record included information for more
than one sheet. Also if the map had been modified by the Forest Service,
there generally was/were subject heading(s) for the forest(s)(where more
than one forest was shown on the sheet).  This part of cataloging is now
being done by a different group of catalogers, so I am not sure how they
handle these variations. The person in out-of-the-office at this time,
but I will ask him tomorrow.

Sincerely,
Jennie Dienes
Map Librarian/Cataloger
Watson Library, Room 240
1425 Jayhawk Blvd.
Lawrence, KS 66045-7544
tel. (785) 864-4346
e-mail: [log in to unmask]


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From: Johnnie D. Sutherland [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 2:59 PM
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Subject: USGS Forest Service Revised Quads]


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: USGS Forest Service Revised Quads
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:39:53 -0400
From: Weessies, Kathleen <[log in to unmask]>


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I am looking for facts and opinions on the USGS 7.5' quads that were
revised by the U.S. Forest Service.  I have been interfiling them with
'regular' USGS quads.  We are now creating cataloging records for state
sets.  My records are stretching out to include all the photorevised and
provisional editions of each quad, but I decided to draw the line at the
7.5 x 15 and the Forest Service quads.  The 7.5 x 15 are the only USGS
1:24,000 quad of a particular place, but for whatever reason I decided
to catalog them in a different record.

Does anyone have any particular knowledge about the difference between
the USGS and the Forest Service quads?  Are they indeed a different
product or simply a little extra shading and pink lines that shouldn't
bother anyone?  Many quads have other authors such as Corps of
Engineers, State agencies, etc.  Are the Forest Service quads simply
another variation or are they truly different?  Does the USGS consider
them to be part of the set or a different animal?

Kathleen Weessies
Maps/GIS Librarian
Michigan State University
100 Library W308
East Lansing, MI  48824
(517)432-6123 x250