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Subject: RE: 'Lack of interest by historians in maps'
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:48:31 -0800
From: Edward Sullivan <[log in to unmask]>
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There are many papers on the use of remote sensing, aerial photography,
and geologic analysis to detect and map coastline changes available at
the National Science Digital Library:
http://nsdl.org/search/?n=10&q=coastline+change&Submit=Search&s=0&verb=S
earch
The USGS Coastal and Marine Geology Program has extensive documentation
of its National Assessment of Shoreline Change Project, including links
to IMS interactive maps with historical shoreline layers, here:
http://coastal.er.usgs.gov/shoreline-change/
Edward A. Sullivan, III
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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:30 AM
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Subject: 'Lack of interest by historians in maps'
Hi Everyone,
There's a conversation going on on Map-Hist about how historians don't
use maps and how cartographers don't know the history of mapping. An
issue came up about how historical atlases use modern coastlines and
Duane Marble asks an interesting question and I thought Maps-L might be
able to answer ...
**snip**
As an aside, I must admit that I do not know of a readily available and
generally accepted database of world coastlines at different periods of
time. Can anyone enlighten me on where one might be found?
Duane Marble
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> We could turn this question around and ask, 'how much interest by
> mapmakers in history'. I find it remarkable how modern historical
> atlases show maps of ancient empires with modern day coastlines. The
> Times Atlas of World History makes some effort to show contemporary (I
> mean the word in its trrue sense, not 'modern' but contemporaneous
> with the era it's showing) coastlines. (I have the 1895 edition,
> maybe newer editions make show more changes). But the changes shown
> do not compare to e.g. Gardiners School Atlas of English History
> (1891), with its map of Roman Britain p.1 showing major changes to
> Romney Marsh, East Kent, E Anglia, The Wash. Or Philips Intermediate
> Historical Atlas For Schools (1938), again showing quite detailed
> changes to the Netherlands, Persian Gulf, Rann of Cutch.
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> I suspect the reason may be a dumbing down of geographical knowledge
> amongst schoolchildren and others, who now might have some idea of
> what the modern coast looks like but be put off by an unfamiliar
> outline. Funny, that didn''t seem to confuse our grandparents as
> schoolchildren.
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Dr. Duane F. Marble Email: [log in to unmask]
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Professor of Geosciences -- Oregon State University
"From now on, space by itself and time by itself
are doomed to fade away into mere shadows, and
only a kind of union of the two will preserve
an independent reality."
- Minkowski, 1908
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