--- Begin Forwarded Message --- Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:46:26 -0500 From: Patrick McGlamery <[log in to unmask]> Subject: RE: DOQQs of California <fwd> Sender: Patrick McGlamery <[log in to unmask]> Mary; Your point is well taken. The Library community has seemed to roll over and give up on the DOQQs, leaving it up to individual libraries to press their acquistions budget hard. I believe that is a bad precedent, but... here we are. That said though, I'm curious as to whether it is worth it to charge. How much does it cost the UCal Libraries to collect the fees? Is it centralized? Does your budget get it all back? Are you getting lots of little requests of a few massive one (or lots of massive ones)? How do you deliver? What impact has it had on your staff? Are you the resource for the whole UC system? If so, does the State Dept. of Higher Ed (or what have you) recognize that with more funding? We are trying a different tack here in Connecticut. The state does a fly-over every five years. This one is digital and with LIDAR elevation data at 1/4 m pixel rez. We, MAGIC and spatial data users, have worked hard to lobby the Governor and the Legislature to spend the money to put it in the public domain. Darned if it didn't make to the Guv's budget. We are all keeping our fingers crossed (and our pols informed) to see that it stays there. While Connecticut is a smaller state, of course it's budget (and resources) are smaller as well. Patrick McG. -----Original Message----- From: Johnnie Sutherland [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 4:34 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: DOQQs of California <fwd> --- Begin Forwarded Message --- Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:13:05 -0800 From: Mary Larsgaard <[log in to unmask]> Subject: DOQQs of California Sender: Mary Larsgaard <[log in to unmask]> Certainly, we would all very much appreciate it if USGS would have the funding to provide libraries with the DOQQs as a depository item, and I do encourage you to let your legislators know that USGS is an important agency whose products are of great use to the taxpayers, and that these products should be provided as part of the of the depository-library system. Just recently, I saw an email that - if I'm remembering correctly - stated that USGS is looking at cuts in its budget for upcoming years. That having been said - the charges that my department has for providing DOQQs to non-UC libraries is a reflection of the realities of building and maintaining a digital library, which as nearly as I can tell costs more, not less, than building and maintaining a hardcopy collection. To date, the UC/Stanford map libraries (several of us are putting our money together to buy these) have invested about $22,000 over the past 2 years or so, and we still have about 15% or so of the state left to purchase. Mary --- Begin Forwarded Message --- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:46:30 -0500 From: Tsering Wangyal Shawa <[log in to unmask]> Subject: SUM:Orthophoto of Los Angeles Sender: Tsering Wangyal Shawa <[log in to unmask]> Map, GIS, and Govt. Doc. Librarians: Is it possible for any of the Californian Librarians to help me in getting Orthophoto of Los Angeles area (Los Angeles SW, SE, NW, and NE) for free for my student? I will very happy to help you should you need any Orthophoto of New Jersey area for academic use. Although a price for DOQQ from the ADL is very reasonable(see the below email) I don't want to set precedent in buying DOQQ from libraries. All the orthophotos of USA are supposed to be distributed free to Federal Depository Libraries but trends are setting in selling these information to libraries through institutions or through commercial companies. Many libraries are not worried by this trend because at this time they are getting their state data more or less free......and many feels that is enough for their library. We, as Librarian have to think very carefully about a long term consequences for libraries who are collecting or acquiring these types of digital materials especially orthophotos. Orthophoto, as I said earlier is one of the most important sources of generating other geospatial data. We don't want to loss a chance of getting this important data resources free from the USGS. When I asked last time through this discussion group about getting free orthophotos for Los Angeles area I received a few emails selling data. Some are charging about $100 per quad and some $2.50 or $1.25 per file with $45per hour labour fee. Is there any good Californian Librarian who is willing to share their resources to us?? Many thanks. -Wangyal Tsering Wangyal Shawa Geographic Information Systems Librarian Digital Map and Geospatial Information Center Geosciences and Map Library Guyot Hall, Princeton University Princeton, NJ 08544 Phone: (609) 258-6804 Fax: (609) 258-4607 www.princeton.edu/~geolib/gis -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >The links to the DOQQ data within the Alexandria Digital Library site >are not yet functional. We are currently selling the DOQQ data for half of our >cost to non-University of California users. CIR DOQQs are $2.50/file and B&W >DOQQs are $1.25/file. There is also a $45/hour labor fee for file preparation. > >Let me know how you would like to proceed, >Greg Hajic > >-=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- > Greg Hajic Map & Imagery Laboratory > (805)893-5122 Davidson Library > (805)893-8799 FAX University of California > [log in to unmask] Santa Barbara, CA 93106 > Alexandria Digital Library: http://www.alexandria.ucsb.edu >-=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- End Forwarded Message --- ______________________________________ Mary Lynette Larsgaard Assistant Head, Map and Imagery Laboratory Davidson Library University of California, Santa Barbara Santa Barbara CA 93106 telephone: 805/893-4049 fax: 805/893-8799 email: [log in to unmask] ______________________________________ --- End Forwarded Message --- --- End Forwarded Message ---