There are 5 messages on the 'scan old AMS-series index' topic attached below. --Moderator XXXXXXXXXXXX Message 1 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 15:28:26 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: Julie Sweetkind <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Sample scan of old AMS-series index - is this useful to you? <fwd> Sender: [log in to unmask] Mary, I would find these quite useful. I have been searching for AMS indicies for the 1:50,000 sets of China. I finally gave up and have started to create my own. I would be happy to make copies of these if you would like to add them to the scanned group. Julie XXXXXXXXXXX Message 2 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX I think scans of these indexes would be very useful to have loaded as plain images on a web site. By plain images I mean without any software loaded in them. They could represent a complete collection, so that a library collection with AMS maps, but lacking certain indexes, could then obtain a copy easily. I doubt that the files would be excessively large, but I am not very expert in this area. Another potential use would be for libraries to provide links from their department or collection web pages to the index images of sets they own. This would enable them to allow potential users both to learn about a useful set of large scale maps of the world, and to see which sets are immediately available at their library. ___________________________ Ken Grabach <[log in to unmask]> Maps Librarian Phone: 513-529-1726 Miami University Libraries Oxford, Ohio 45056 USA XXXXXXXXXXX Message 3 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ------------------ I love the concept! This is would be most helpful. I am after specific sheets and as far as I know, I have NO access to the indexes. When someone offers maps, they usually indicate all or none. I can't use all and I can't tell which one I want so I am left with none. This would be MOST helpful. Please scan the indexes! The files are a bit big. Smaller would be better, but this is a great improvement over nothing. Thanks!...John ************************** * JOHN D. CRISSINGER * NEWARK CAMPUS LIBRARY * Tele: 740-366-9306 OSU-N/COTC * Fax: 740-366-9264 1179 UNIVERSITY DR. * email: [log in to unmask] NEWARK, OH 43055 * * ************************** "Geographers never get lost, they are only exploring unfamiliar places!" XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Message 4 XXXXXXXXXXXX Hello Mary, Thank you for taking the time and effort to scan the A.M.S. map index. I'm very partial to the A.M.S. materials and I'm probably the only one who uses them in the LSU Cartographic Information Center. We have a large collection of the A.M.S. indexes all bound in an old, heavy, large (11x17) expandable two post binder which my student staff calls the "Witches Spell Book" because it looks like a prop from a horror movie. Because of this arrangement, it makes it hard to remove the pages to make a copy to help a map librarian who needs a map index so having somebody else scanning them and making them available would be helpful. Some specifics on your questions: I would use the files to fill in gaps in our index map binder. The A.M.S. maps are the resource of last resort when trying to find coverage of an area out of scope for our current collection or trying to find historical information. The only time I go directly to the A.M.S. map indexes is when a patron is researching a place name for tracing genealogy. In these cases I start by searching for the placename on GEONet to find the NIMA 1501 sheet designator then I determine the old A.M.S. series for that area. Most of our users don't know how to use a map index. I think I have used the A.M.S index maps twice this year for patrons. If the indexes were available on the web, would it help to have a list of what map libraries have the map series? I tried to determine what series would be in a typical A.M.S. collection for an article but it proved difficult. One problem with putting indexes or lists on the web is when patrons find them, they expect to be able to download the whole map sheet also. The file size is large and hard to print so 100dpi might be better. Would it be possible to get the Library of Congress to scan their A.M.S. map indexes? They had many of them in 1996 when I was at the Summer Project. Hope this helps. John M. Anderson Map Librarian and Director Cartographic Information Center Department of Geography & Anthropology LSU Baton Rouge, LA 70803 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Message 5 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ------------------ Mary, very encouraging! this is much better than when we tried it (and we went to the 4Mbyte range, too). how did they keep the verso from bleeding through? answer can wait, just tell me if we'll be able to duplicate the feat. our preservation funding window of opportunity is open right now. since i'm under continual mandate to downsize the map room footprint, can probably get support (i.e. starting with right-sized items, e.g. all those ww2 OSS intelligence maps). have you sampled any usgs state indexes using this technique? those pose a similar scanning problem. J Creaser was just asking whether he should catalog and send his backfile to SRLF. if they're doable, this might be a good time. would be better than leaaving it to usgs/nara judging from past experience. Thanks for sending. Larry Larry Cruse <[log in to unmask]> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Tue, 8 May 2001 16:56:19 -0400 Johnnie Sutherland <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > --- Begin Forwarded Message --- > Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 09:58:05 -0700 > From: Mary Larsgaard <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Sample scan of old AMS-series index - is this useful to you? > Sender: Mary Larsgaard <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Cc: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] > Reply-To: Mary Larsgaard <[log in to unmask]> > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> > > > Over the years, one type of query that keeps popping > up is requests for copies of the old AMS map-series index. > A few months back Paige Andrew (Penn) and I were talking > about this and I offered to have us here scan > a sample. Just to try it out, the scanning staff here scanned > one such index (both sides), at 200dpi. > > > http://www.sdc.ucsb.edu/~mary/hokkaido_front.jpg > > http://www.sdc.ucsb.edu/~mary/hokkaido_back.jpg > > > a. Would it be useful to you/your library's users to > have all the old AMS indexes scanned and available > over the Web? > Please tell me specifically how your users or you as > a map librarian would use these. > (I have a couple of obvious ideas on this - e.g., > fill in missing indexes; users can check over > web to see what sheet numbers are, etc..... - > but am sure you will come up with others). > > b. Are the files too large? should they be > scanned at, say, 150 or 100dpi, or sampled down? > ______________________________________ > > Mary Lynette Larsgaard > Assistant Head, Map and Imagery Laboratory > Davidson Library > University of California, Santa Barbara > Santa Barbara CA 93106 > telephone: 805/893-4049 > fax: 805/893-8799 > email: [log in to unmask] > ______________________________________ > --- End Forwarded Message --- ---------------------- Julie Sweetkind GIS and Map Librarian Branner Earth Sciences Library 201 Mitchell Bldg., M/S 2210 Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305 650-725-1103 [log in to unmask] --- End Forwarded Message ---