-------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Sanborn maps] Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:21:55 -0500 From: HelenJane Armstrong <[log in to unmask]> To: 'Maps and Air Photo Systems Forum' <[log in to unmask]> ------------------ At the University of Florida Map & Imagery Library we have a set of the copyright Sanborns for Florida Cities given to us by LC Geography and Map Division. The public domain maps have been scanned and loaded on a website funded by the State of Florida for its citizens but available for anyone to use. The UF Libraries Digital Library Center are responsible for the scanning. They have produced wonderful images in color and highly detailed. The same website contains scans of the aerial photography collection of Florida and our collections of antique maps and non-copyrighted maps of Florida. We also have all the original microfilms of Sanborns for Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, and Washington DC. There is a small printer attached to the reader and letter size Black & White copies may be made for 25 cents. We will allow photos to be taken of the originals based on a strict set of guidelines which includes appointments, staff member in attendance, etc. We do not allow scanning or photocopies of the paper maps. Everyone reproducing a post 1923-Sanborns must sign an acknowledgement of the copyright statement. The Sanborns may be used by any of our patrons. All of the Sanborns have been cataloged. The original "bound" books were removed during the scanning process and not rebound so they could be housed in proper preservation conditions. After my address, I have copied the use statement from the Sanborn portion of the website. The address of the website is: http://palmm.fcla.edu/collection.html. Please feel free to contact me if you have any additional questions. There will be some articles coming out soon on the UF Sanborn Project. Helen HelenJane Armstrong PhD Head, Map & Imagery Library George Smathers Libraries University of Florida PO Box 117011 Gainesville, FL 7011 FROM PALMM Sanborn website. (PALMM=Publication Archival Library Museum Materials) "This project makes available only those maps which have passed into the public domain. The images that comprise this digital collection were produced as a service to the people of the State of Florida using public funds. No profit is derived from this collection or from items derived from this collection, and no profit may be made of third party uses of this collection. Digitization of these maps does not remove either these maps or their digital reproductions from the public domain. We require only that proper attribution be accompany any copies, off-prints, or derivative formats of the maps in this collection. Sanborn", "Sanborn Map", "Sanborn Map Company", and "Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps" are recognized trademarks of the Sanborn Map Company, a subsidiary of Environmental Data Resources, Inc. (EDR). The presentation of historic Sanborn Fire Insurance Company maps of Florida on this site is in no way connected with either the Sanborn Map Company or Environmental Data Resources, Inc. DATABASE, SEARCH SYSTEMS, & OTHER VALUE ADDED INFORMATION The database, search systems and other value added information are the property of the University of Florida. Copyright protections extend to this information and all rights are reserved. Only Fair Use may be made of this information. Permission for all other uses must be requested of and secured in writing from the Digital Library Center at the University of Florida." -----Original Message----- From: Johnnie D. Sutherland [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 2:40 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Sanborn maps] -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Sanborn maps Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:52:30 -0500 From: Boardman, Richard <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> CC: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> I'd like to get some feedback from libraries that have Sanborn Maps in the collection, microfilm and/or hard copy or digital. How do you handle requests for copies of Sanborns? Do you split them into pre-1923 (public domain) and post-1923 (copyrighted) and make copies accordingly? Or do you not make copies at all? Is there a "fair use" provision that would allow, say, students to make copies for their school projects, as opposed to a commercial company making copies for a client report? Sanborn gives a student "discount" for copies but it's still very expensive. In Philadelphia, the first Sanborn completed was for center city (1916). By the time they completed the set, the northeast section of the city was 1928. Does that mean that the 1916-23 copies are fair game but the 1928 (as well as later updates) is out as far as reproductions? Does the fact that Pro-Quest produced the film under an agreement with pre-EDR Sanborn have any bearing on this? Thoughts, opinions, suggestions? Please excuse the cross-posting. Thanks. Rich Boardman Map Collection Free Library of Philadelphia