================================================ MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ================================================ Subject: MAPS-L: Universal Map company map Dates? Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 From: Angie Cope, AGSL <[log in to unmask]> To: Maps and Air Photo Systems Forum <[log in to unmask]> Hi Frank, This is a very typical strategy that map producers use to keep their products relevant. Business is business. As a cataloger, I marvel at how the internet and email has eased our work and made it possible for us to actually contact someone at these companies in an effort to obtain accurate information. Universal Map was at least willing to respond to your inquiry. Consider yourself lucky. I wonder if Universal has a predictable date coding system that we could learn about. As far as I know, there isn't any information in the library world about Universal Map date codes. Keep us informed! Angie opinions expressed are my own. ================================================ MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ================================================ Subject: FW: Universal Map Dates? Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 From: Frank Stieber <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] To all involved in the indexing and cataloging of maps, I recently came across a publisher, Universal Maps, that deliberately leaves off the dates on their most recently published street maps for reasons stated below. I raised an eyebrow at this when querying the publisher on the dates of some of its maps because I think street maps are one of those products that a consumer would definitely want to know the year published what with roads and highways changing so frequently in fast growing American Cities and suburbs. In any case they claim they leave the dates off so the public doesn't assume their products are outdated if the year published isn't up to date on a particular map. I think I would encourage the public to purchase maps from a company that is forthright in revealing when the map was published, so as to know the information is valid and relevant for navigation. ~frank Stieber ASU - Map Collection -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:36 AM To: Frank Stieber Subject: Fw: Universal Map Dates????? Mr. Stieber, I'm not sure which editions of these titles you have. In order to know this, I would need you to send me the ISBN numbers on them. What would also help greatly is the number in the upper right hand corner of the barcode boxes where the ISBN is. It should be either a number beginning with two letters (ex: TX555) or a seven digit number. We generally don't put dates on our maps because if people see that a map was last updated in say, 2003, even if it is the most updated possible version, they will still think it is outdated. We try to always stock our most current edition of all products, but people will still assume that it is old. Thanks! Mara Wolke Purchasing Agent Universal Map (800) 829-6277 (ext. 219) Shamika Goss/UMAP 09/14/2005 09:17 AM To Mara Wolke/UMAP@UMAP cc Subject Fw: Universal Map Dates????? ----- Forwarded by Shamika Goss/UMAP on 09/14/05 09:18 AM ----- Frank Stieber <[log in to unmask]> 09/13/05 10:05 PM To [log in to unmask] cc Subject Universal Map Dates????? I need the dates that these maps were published...i am finding that Universal maps have no publishing dates on any of these map editions http://www.travelsite.com/scripts/travel/viewitem.pl?pn=1364230&category =Folding+Maps&subcategory= http://www.travelsite.com/scripts/travel/viewitem.pl?pn=1072230&category =Folding+Maps&subcategory= greater fort worth fold out dallas tx, street map phoenix, Peoria, Glendale, and sun city Arizona street map tempe, mesa, chandler and gilbert, street map any assistance is appreciated, as I need the dates in order to catalog them for our map library properly frank Stieber asu map collection -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:19 AM To: Frank Stieber Subject: Universal Map Hi, I would be more than happy to help you. May I have the ISBN# or either the UPC# on the map? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ANGIE COPE American Geographical Society Library 2311 E. Hartford Avenue Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53201 http://www.uwm.edu/Libraries/AGSL/index.html Hours: M-F 8:00am-4:30pm [log in to unmask] (414) 229-6282 (800) 558-8993 (US TOLL FREE) (414) 229-3624 (FAX) Map Librarian, MAPS-L Moderator http://www.uwm.edu/Libraries/AGSL/welcome_to_mapsl%20forum.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~