================================================ MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ================================================ Subject: Re: MAPS-L: USGS Outsources Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 From: Susan A. Hawkins <[log in to unmask]> To: Maps, Air Photo & Geospatial Systems Forum <[log in to unmask]> I happen to *be* one of those outsourced cartographers/scientific illustrators. I left the USGS when the threat started looking ominous a few years ago and I had a job offer at a firm I worked at before the USGS. I do love aerial photography, but I loved my work at the Survey more than anything I ever did, and would really give anything to go back, but I don't see that happening. At the same time, the outsourcing is a big mistake from a financial as well as a quality standpoint - not to mention the careers it will squash. I'd be happy to expound upon it more, but not without invitation. I suspect you all know what I would say! Susan A. Hawkins National Aerial Resources 12 Arrowhead La, Box 4 Cohoes, NY 12047 V: 800-827-2994 F: 518-785-8088 http://www.nar.com ...insight through aerial photography At 11:03 AM 10/20/05, you wrote: >================================================ >MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L >================================================ > >Subject: Re: USGS Outsources >Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 >From: Liz Paulus <[log in to unmask]> >To: Maps, Air Photo & Geospatial Systems Forum <[log in to unmask]> > >I heard about this last week at the Council of Geographic Names >Authorities (COGNA) conference in Portland -- it's really upsetting. I >talked with career cartographers like the one mentioned in the article >who will not be finding jobs anywhere soon, and the loss of >institutional memory and expertise is alarming. > >Liz Paulus >Librarian >Portland, Oregon >[log in to unmask] > >>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:16:34 -0500 >>From: "Angie Cope, AGSL" <[log in to unmask]> >>Subject: MAPS-L: USGS Outsources >> >>================================================ >>MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L >>================================================ >>Subject: USGS Outsources >>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 >>From: David Cobb <[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >> >> >>Yesterdays Federal ComputerWeek - www.fcw.com/article91117-10-17-05-Print - >>reveals the "death" of the paper map looms ever closer! On a more positive >>note, however, maybe we won't have to keep buying those nasty map cases. >> >>David Cobb >> >>*************************************************************************** >>David A. Cobb Tel. 617.495.2417 >>Harvard Map Collection FAX 617.496.0440 >>Harvard College Library Email: [log in to unmask] >>Cambridge, MA 02138 HTTP://hcl.harvard.edu/maps >>************************** VERITAS **************************************** >> >> >>-- >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:12:26 -0500 >>From: "Angie Cope, AGSL" <[log in to unmask]> >>Subject: MAPS-L: USGS Outsources >> >>================================================ >>MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L >>================================================ >> >>Subject: Re: MAPS-L: USGS Outsources >>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 >>From: Brian Bach <[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >> >>I daresay, it will be most interesting to note how users of any >>outsourced USGS map products respond to their quality and offerings. If >>good old American free enterprise is going to make a cavalry charge to >>save poor, ailing USGS from making a fool out of itself, the results >>better be worthwhile! Call me a curmudgeon, but I am wary when aspects >>of our ADD-influenced society seep into the library world, which is >>founded on principles of patience and permanence (relative terms, >>naturally). >> >>Bravo to modern mapping technology for aiding in natural disasters >>(e.g. Katrina rescue maps). But in the context of acquired map >>collections in libraries, as Eddie 'Rochester' Anderson exclaimed in >>'It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World': 'What's the rush??' >> >>One thing is certain: our library will maintain our paper map >>collection in perpetuity (or...well... as long as I'm around!). In my >>humble opinion, its value will only increase with time. >> >>All best, >> >>Brian >> >> >>Brian P. Bach >>Documents/Maps >>Brooks Library >>Central Washington University >>400 E. University Way >>Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548 >>USA >>[log in to unmask] >> >> >> >>>>>[log in to unmask] 10/18/05 11:16 AM >>> >>>>> >>================================================ >>MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L ** MAPS-L >>================================================ >>Subject: USGS Outsources >>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 >>From: David Cobb <[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >> >> >>Yesterdays Federal ComputerWeek - >>www.fcw.com/article91117-10-17-05-Print - >>reveals the "death" of the paper map looms ever closer! On a more >>positive >>note, however, maybe we won't have to keep buying those nasty map >>cases. >> >>David Cobb >> >>*************************************************************************** >>David A. Cobb Tel. 617.495.2417 >>Harvard Map Collection FAX 617.496.0440 >>Harvard College Library Email: >>[log in to unmask] >>Cambridge, MA 02138 >>http://hcl.harvard.edu/maps >>************************** VERITAS >>**************************************** >> >> >>-- >> >>-- >> >>------------------------------ >> >>End of MAPS-L Digest - 17 Oct 2005 to 18 Oct 2005 (#2005-184) >>************************************************************* >> >> >> > > >-- > War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. Ambrose Bierce _____________________________________________________ --