-------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Map publishing news - Future of the printed maps Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 12:10:16 +0200 From: Ekrem ALIMLI <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Hi Russel, Thanks for the detailed information... From your e mail, I saw a picture of a market that is changing, cutting its leaves and getting smaller. Is that the truht? Or beside the lessening or closing publishers, are there the ones getting bigger and publishing new series? What is the future of printed maps? (I belive that they are always a need). "I think this an important topic for the list, and many list members have some idea about the today's and tomorrow's map market." Russel, according to your (omnimap) selling graphics, do you say that 1) today people are less interested in the printed maps as yesterday, since they have google maps on desktop and some digital maps in their cell phone? Or 2) since people have google maps and some digital maps in their cell phones, they have learned that maps are useful, they began to ask for printed maps more than yesterday. printed maps are still have good selling graphic. What is your (the map list members) idea? Thanks, Ekrem ALIMLI www.mapist.com Istanbul / Turkey -----Original Message----- From: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Angie Cope Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 6:40 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Map publishing news -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Re: Map publishing news Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 10:35:53 -0600 (CST) From: AliceH <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] I think this is familiarly known as "progress." And Happy New Year to one and all... Alice C. Hudson [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask] Dec 28, 2010 11:22:08 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Map publishing news Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 11:12:02 -0500 From: Russell Guy To: Angie Cope Maps-L: Jack's newsletter has by far the most juicy news and is the most interesting reading. Jack has numerous contacts throughout the industry, and he is willing to speak his mind, often to good effect, and good humor. The International Map Trade Association's monthly newsletter also has news of the industry and is worth a quick scan when it comes out. You can see it at http://www.maptrade.org/publications/ and archived newsletters are also available there. The IMTA newsletter is more sanitized, as map companies and/or people in the news are usually members, and the IMTA tends to not criticize members. The IMTA newsletter is good for merger news, new product lines, new companies, etc. On the Langenscheidt closing, they sold their US inventory and cartographic databases of ADC/Hagstrom/American Map/Arrow, etc. to Universal Maps for $3 million. They did not sell their Insight Guides and Insight Maps lines, nor any of the European map lines nor any of the dictionary lines. Insight Guides and maps will continue to be available in the US through Ingram and others such as myself. Langenscheidt used the $3million to pay off their debts in the US at 52 cents per dollar owed. Universal has started reprinting and/or shipping titles in the Langenscheidt range, such as ADC maps and atlases, and Hagstrom maps. Most, but not all of the ADC line will continue to be available, as well as the big sellers from Mapsco and Hagstrom, etc. As part of the Langenscheidt sale, the ADC Map Store on "I" Street in Wash. D.C. closed, as did the Hagstrom store up in NYC. Rand McNally continues to cut map titles from its listings. It appears to me that RM is cutting nearly all of their Easyfinder laminated city maps as well as the bulk of their Streetfinder atlases. Their Thomas Bros. atlases continue to be available. Many of RM's city maps are being discontinued and replaced by "city atlases" that contain city center maps for anywhere from 10-25 cities in a pocket-sized atlas. The latest Rand McNally product listing I received (12/15/10) lists 360 maps as being "available going forward" and 552 titles being "re-evaluated when current inventory runs out." So far all re-evaluated titles have been declared discontinued/out of print, so I assume nearly all of those 552 will be gone once sold out. Anyone that hasn't updated their RM holdings might consider doing so ASAP. Latest out of print items included Manhattan street map, Knoxville Streetfinder atlas, etc. I assume you heard that Globe Corner Bookstore in Cambridge is for sale, due to Pat Carrier's recently diagnosed health issues. The last I knew (a few weeks ago) Pat had received some serious inquiries, but nothing had progressed beyond that point. When Mapsco was bought by Universal in March 2010, nearly all of the Mapsco retail stores were closed (Denver, Dallas, etc.), and as far as I know only the Ft. Worth store is still open. Cartographia in Hungary is down to 8 employees and is for sale for $4million. Cheers Russell ************************************************************************************** Russell Guy [log in to unmask] Omnimap.com http://www.omnimap.com P.O. Box 2096 Tel.: 800-742-2677 (USA only) 1004 South Mebane St. Tel.: 336-227-8300 (International) Burlington, NC 27216-2096 USA Fax: 336-227-3748 Past President (1996) and Member, International Map Trade Association ************************************************************************************** t 09:52 AM 12/28/2010, you wrote: > From Jack Joyce's ITMB newsletter ... > > Eastview bought Map Link's stock and website. Stay tuned. > > Hema North America and LANGENSCHEIDT closing down. > > Replogle Globes was sold to Cram last summer, via Herff-Jones who owns > Cram. > > You can see ITMB newsletter here: http://www.itmb.com/newsletter.php > > Does anyone else know of other good sources of updates regarding map > publishing? > > Thanks. > > Angie __________ ESET NOD32 Antivirus Akll Gvenlik tarafndan salanan bilgiler, virs imza veritaban srm: 5738 (20101228) __________ leti ESET NOD32 Antivirus Akll Gvenlik tarafndan denetlendi. http://www.nod32.com.tr __________ ESET NOD32 Antivirus Akýllý Güvenlik tarafýndan saðlanan bilgiler, virüs imza veritabaný sürümü: 5740 (20101228) __________ Ýleti ESET NOD32 Antivirus Akýllý Güvenlik tarafýndan denetlendi. http://www.nod32.com.tr