-------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: N&O: WA State Topos 25,000 and 50,000 scale Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 14:11:45 -0500 From: Kingscribbins, Andrew <[log in to unmask]> To: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship <[log in to unmask]> Carlos, For the state of Washington and practically all other states, there are a variety of non-USGS military maps published, generally at the 1:50,000 scale for modern maps but at the 1:25,000 scale many years ago. As far as we understand, the 1:25,000 scale map series are all withdrawn and no longer distributed as current maps by NGA. However the 1:50,000 scale maps are. According to our records, there are currently about 36 1:50,000 NGA (and predecessor agency) maps covering the State of Washington in Series V791. As you can see from the index map coverage is very partial. Best Regards, Andy _______________________________________________________ Andrew King-Scribbins, GISP Academic and Library Account Manager East View Geospatial, Inc. 10601 Wayzata Blvd, Minneapolis, MN 55305-1526 USA Direct: +1.952.252.4569 | Mobile: +1.218.269.1182 | Fax: +1.952.252.1202 [log in to unmask] | www.geospatial.com -----Original Message----- From: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Angie Cope, American Geographical Society Library, UW Milwaukee Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:07 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: N&O: WA State Topos 25,000 and 50,000 scale -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: N&O: WA State Topos 25,000 and 50,000 scale Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:31:33 -0400 From: Fry, Michael <[log in to unmask]> To: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship <[log in to unmask]> Carlos, It would not surprise me if you actually have what was produced and/or distributed. U-Md., a regional depository, had a "full" collection of 1:24k and 1:250k USGS maps, but what seemed to be incomplete sets of the 1:100k and county topo series. And then only /very/ small numbers of the 1:25 and 1:50k series. My understanding is that the USGS 1:25,000 metric series was short-lived; I don't think many were produced. (I think that's true of the county and 1:100k, too.) I don't know the story with the USGS/DMA 1:50K series, but maybe somebody with a better sense of DMA products (Lee Hadden?) knows. mf -- Michael Fry Senior Map Librarian National Geographic Society 1145 17th St. N.W. Washington, D.C. 20036 202.857.7098 <tel:202.857.7098> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Angie Cope, American Geographical Society Library, UW Milwaukee <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [DocTech-L] N&O: WA State Topos 25,000 and 50,000 scale Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 10:35:49 -0700 From: Carlos Diaz <[log in to unmask]> To: John Stevenson <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> CC: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>, DOCTECH-L <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>, [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Those are the first places I went to see if they were available. They are not available in those scales. There were a handful of (less than 10) in the 25,000 scale and they were all in western Washington. There was only one 50,000 scale which was also from western Washington. ------------------------------__------------------------------__----------- ,-~~-.___. / | ' \ "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of ( ) 0 the few or the one." \_/-, ,----' ==== // Mr. Spock / \-'~; /~~~(O) Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan / __/~| / | =( _____| (_________| Carlos A. Diaz Government Publications, Maps, and Microforms James E. Brooks Library Central Washington University Mailstop 7548 Ellensburg, WA 98926 [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> http://www.lib.cwu.edu/__government-publications/ <http://www.lib.cwu.edu/government-publications/> Carlos' phone: (509) 963-1545 <tel:%28509%29%20963-1545> ------------------------------__------------------------------__----------- >>> John Stevenson <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> 10/1/2012 6:01 AM >>> Carlos, While printed maps are nice to hold, so many people find the online PDF versions produced by USGS helpful that I use these links in my library guide for maps: * USGS Topographic Maps http://nationalmap.gov/ustopo/__index.html <http://nationalmap.gov/ustopo/index.html> <http://nationalmap.gov/__ustopo/index.html <http://nationalmap.gov/ustopo/index.html>> "US Topo users can turn geographic data layers on and off as needed; zoom in and out to highlight specific features or see a broader context; and print the maps, in their entirety or in customized sections" * Historical Topographic Map Collection (The National Map) http://nationalmap.gov/__historical/ <http://nationalmap.gov/historical/> <http://nationalmap.gov/__historical/ <http://nationalmap.gov/historical/>> When searching, remember that quadrangles may be listed as belonging to states adjacent to the states being sought. The USGS is scanning all editions and all scales of topographic maps produced since the inception of the topographic mapping program in 1884. The exact number of maps is unknown at this time but 200,000 is the number currently being used until an accurate count can be made. All 50 States, Puerto Rico and Trust Territories are included in the effort to complete the collection. John A. Stevenson Associate Librarian, Student Multimedia Design Center University of Delaware Library 181 S. College Ave. Newark, DE 19717-5267 302 831-8671 <tel:302%20831-8671> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Carlos Diaz <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> wrote: While trying to help a patron find a map, we realized that our collection for 25,000 and 50,000 scale is sorely lacking. I was wondering if anyone has duplicate copies of the Washington State 25,000 and 50,000 scale maps or who are just willing to discard them. We would give them a great home. Any help you can give us would be most appreciated. ------------------------------__------------------------------__-----------______ ____ ,-~~-.___.____ / | ' \ "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of____ ( ) 0 the few or the one."____ \_/-, ,----'____ ==== // Mr. Spock____ / \-'~; /~~~(O) Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan____ / __/~| / |____ =( _____| (_________|____ ____ ____ Carlos A. Diaz Government Publications, Maps, and Microforms ____ James E. Brooks Library ____ Central Washington University____ Mailstop 7548____ Ellensburg, WA 98926____ [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> ____ http://www.lib.cwu.edu/__government-publications/ <http://www.lib.cwu.edu/government-publications/> Carlos' phone: (509) 963-1545 <tel:%28509%29%20963-1545> <tel:%28509%29%20963-1545> ____