-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Cataloging cartographic materials using RDA Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 08:41:59 -0500 From: Angie Cope, American Geographical Society Library, UW Milwaukee <[log in to unmask]> Organization: American Geographical Society Library To: Maps-L <[log in to unmask]> Are there any 260/264 cheat sheets out there? Useful links to help understand - especially for maps and all the map quirkiness - which to use when and where? The OCLC bib formats is helpful, but is there anything else that's been created? http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/2xx/264.html Thanks. Angie -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Cataloging cartographic materials using RDA Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:39:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Paige G. Andrew <[log in to unmask]> To: Air Photo Maps, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship <[log in to unmask]> As promised, links to these three "new" MARC/RDA fields' tables so that one can use them as "look up tables" to go by: 336 = http://www.loc.gov/standards/valuelist/rdacontent.html 337 = http://www.loc.gov/standards/valuelist/rdamedia.html 338 = http://www.loc.gov/standards/valuelist/rdacarrier.html and also a document I created showing first the type of cart. material (sheet map or globe or atlas, etc.). Paige ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Cope, American Geographical Society Library, UW Milwaukee" <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 7:57:21 AM Subject: Re: Cataloging cartographic materials using RDA -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Cataloging cartographic materials using RDA Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 21:08:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Paige G. Andrew <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Ken, I can help. Though it would be easier if we spoke by phone. I will also post -- tomorrow (I am replying just before 9 p.m. at home without quick access to the LC webpage on 33X field details that are the tables of terms and codes) -- the LC website you are referring to. My first bit of advice to anyone new to the 33X fields (content type = 336; media type = 337; carrier type = 338) is to be calm about it, its weird and strange at first but the more you use/apply them the clearer the intent and meaning becomes. I have worked up a couple of 33X "cheat sheets" over the past year or so. I also shared some detail about these fields in the ALCTS webinar I provided to the community in Sept. 2011 (http://www.ala.org/alcts/confevents/upcoming/webinar/cat/092811) and Susan Moore and I also re-shared similar information at the 2013 MAGIRT Program we delivered in Chicago in June http://magirt.ala.libguides.com/trainingsandpresentations scroll down to "2013 MAGIRT Program at ALA Conference" and below it you'll find the PPT slides), so hopefully one or both of these will help. You seem to be getting a handle on the different meanings of the 336 terms, though I will tell you that an atlas is treated as a book, which is why you end up with "volume" as the carrier type. To get a better handle on the media type, think of the terms "mediated" and "unmediated" to decide what to use -- for something to be "mediated" it means one must have a tool outside of one's own eyes to see and/or manipulate the cartographic item, most often that would be a computer, but also could be a microfiche reader or possibly even a pair of 3D glasses. Any cartographic item falling under the term "unmediated" simply means you don't need a computer or similar to read/use it, so yes, a sheet map or map set, a paper atlas, or a globe would be given the term "unmediated" in 337$a. Anyway, it would take too long to go over all the details here. I will re-contact you tomorrow or Friday to follow up. And don't worry, some "ready reference" documents that I've devised will be part of the forthcoming book, just not sure if they'll be within the primary text or as appendices, yet. Paige ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Cope" <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:10:34 PM Subject: Cataloging cartographic materials using RDA ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grabach" <[log in to unmask]> To: "Air Photo Maps & Geospatial Systems Forum [[log in to unmask]]" <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:10:49 PM Subject: Cataloging cartographic materials using RDA Dear cartographic cataloger colleagues, My library is preparing to make our first steps into the minimally charted waters of RDA catalog description. Most of this seems, while different in style, to be rather straightforward. However, I wonder if there might be anything prepared among cartographic catalogers using RDA to clarify the terminology for the 33x fields. I managed with some digging to find a Term and Code List for RDA Content Types . In that list I find six different cartographic types. Does anyone know of a set of definitions for these terms. Some seem straightforward, but some see to overlap or lack a concise connotative meaning. "Cartographic image," "Cartographic tactile image," and "Cartographic three-dimensional form" seem to possibly have some overlap one to another. I have assumptions about each. "Cartographic image" might conceivably be the one to use for a traditional printed map. "Cartographic three-dimensional form" might conceivably be the one to use for a globe. "Cartographic tactile image" might conceivably be a raised-relief map. And "Cartographic tactile three-dimensional form" might conceivably be a globe with raised relief. However, I might, conceivably be off in one or more of these assumptions. And that there is no content term for a set of compiled cartographic images (i.e. an atlas of maps) for which neither "Text" nor "Cartographic image" seems precise and accurate has me stumped a bit. In Field 337, media, I am assuming a printed map, atlas, or globe would be "unmediated", but I can conceive of them being "other" or "unspecified". none of them in the appropriate table are matched with Marc 007 code "a". Field 338 seems most straightforward of all. Printed maps would be "sheet", printed atlases would be "volume", and globes would be "object" unless they are "other". If anyone has knowledge or more insight to give, perhaps additional references or tools, I would welcome them. Others might, also. Ken -- Ken Grabach Maps Librarian BEST Library, 219D Miami University Libraries Oxford, OH 45056 USA 513-529-1726