On Dec 21, 2016, at 11:38 AM, Angela R Cope <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hello all,

Will you reply to me or the list and tell me if you ...

a) interfile the Forest Service quads with your general USGS topographic quads

or 

b) Keep the Forest Service maps in a separate location.

I'd love to hear why you think it's important for these maps to be together or kept separate, so if you have a moment, please include a sentence or two on that issue. 

If I get any off list replies, I'll send a summary ...

Thanks in advance for your input.

Angie

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p.s. I'm pasting a thread below from a 2004 Maps-L conversation about the Forest Service quads. It's interesting to see how they differ from the regular quads. Kathleen, are your's still interfiled? <OutlookEmoji-😊.png>

------- Original Message --------

Subject: Re: USGS Forest Service Revised Quads]

Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:52:38 -0400

From: Steve Morris <[log in to unmask]>

Organization: NCSU Libraries

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More info about the USFS quad sheets may be found at the North Carolina

Geologic Survey topo map site at: http://tinyurl.com/3b8f6  ... the URL was

too long to cut and paste.  Click on the "Single-edition revision" link for

the USFS map details.

Key points are that the interagency agreement allows the USFS to update only

the National Forest land on a quadrangle and that DRG copies were not

routinely produced, so:

"... areas outside the National Forest System lands may not have been

revised and could be significantly older than the printed map date. Users

should note that:

In many cases, map revisions on a topographic map are performed only within

the USFS national forest boundaries;

In certain cases, partial and inconsistent feature revisions are performed

outside the USFS national forest boundary; and

Soft copy (the equivalent of a DRG) may not be as current as the published

paper map."

Some of this information on the NCGS page was summarized from the following

report:

Moore, Larry, 2000, The U.S. Geological Survey's revision program for

7.5-minute topographic maps, in Soller, David R., editor,  Digital Mapping

Techniques '00-Workshop Proceedings, U.S. Geological Survey Open-File Report

00-325, p. 21-26.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/of00-325/moore.html

Best regards,

Steve Morris

"Johnnie D. Sutherland" wrote:

> -------- Original Message --------

> Subject: USGS Forest Service Revised Quads

> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:39:53 -0400

> From: Weessies, Kathleen <[log in to unmask]>

>

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> I am looking for facts and opinions on the USGS 7.5' quads that were

> revised by the U.S. Forest Service.  I have been interfiling them with

> 'regular' USGS quads.  We are now creating cataloging records for state

> sets.  My records are stretching out to include all the photorevised and

> provisional editions of each quad, but I decided to draw the line at the

> 7.5 x 15 and the Forest Service quads.  The 7.5 x 15 are the only USGS

> 1:24,000 quad of a particular place, but for whatever reason I decided

> to catalog them in a different record.

>

> Does anyone have any particular knowledge about the difference between

> the USGS and the Forest Service quads?  Are they indeed a different

> product or simply a little extra shading and pink lines that shouldn't

> bother anyone?  Many quads have other authors such as Corps of

> Engineers, State agencies, etc.  Are the Forest Service quads simply

> another variation or are they truly different?  Does the USGS consider

> them to be part of the set or a different animal?

>

> Kathleen Weessies

> Maps/GIS Librarian

> Michigan State University

> 100 Library W308

> East Lansing, MI  48824

> (517)432-6123 x250

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Steve Morris

Head of Digital Library Initiatives

North Carolina State University Libraries

Phone: (919) 515-1361  Fax: (919) 513-3553

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