Sylvia,


I've been following your question and Angie's assistance and agree with her ideas in terms of supplying correct information in the record using square brackets, using "not..." to indicate the actual printed information from the map, etc. Any note or notes that further explain what is going on will at least help another cataloger understand should copies of this map have been distributed to other libraries. 


One of the key things you should do to be helpful to users is make sure to get a set of bounding box coordinates for the area shown on the map, this can easily be done by using the Klokan Bounding Box Tool that Angie mentioned (see https://boundingbox.klokantech.com/). If you've never used this tool one of us can help guide you. I mention all of this explicitly because geographic coordinates don't "lie" like textual information can. Put another way, because the wrong or incorrect title is on the map you already understand how a user could be upset by finding something they thought was going to be useful but turns out it is not. However, if they use the coordinates to locate the true geographic area involved they'll know immediately if that area is of research concern or not.


The other factor you can control is geographic subject headings. If you know the area involved, even if its non-jurisdictional (geological maps often are, for instance anything based on topographic quadrangles) you can figure out what county(ies), or state(s), or similar it lies within and give accurate subject headings for them. Same with classification numbers. 


BTW, I'm sure you will run into this kind of oddity again so once you work out a record you are happy with in terms of how you provided both the transcribed incorrect information and the supplied correct information it will give you confidence for the next time it happens!


Paige Andrew

Cartographic Resources Cataloging Librarian

Penn State University





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I would handle it with brackets and notes and not bother your geologists unless you have to.

So ...

245 0 0 [Map to Angie's house not] Map to Sylvia's house.
500  Title derived by cataloger.
255 Scale approximately 1:5,000 not 1:10,000.
     034 1 a $$b 5000

Then have all the other fields reflect the true location with accompanying notes as necessary. 

Well, that's what I would do.

🙂  

Angie


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This is a very different situation than that –

 

The way it is, I work for a geological survey.  And so, I’m able to chat with the geologists who made these maps.  And sometimes, there is just a mistake on a map.  People do make mistakes sometimes.  

 

The geologist who made this map says that yes, that place name is close in the alphabet to another place name, but it is not the same place, and the bad title is just a mistake.  His take is it just needs to be fixed on the map.  But!  It can take some time to do that.  And people are busy.  And I hate to put people out that are busy.  My job is supposed to be cataloging the maps, not finding fault with work that map makers did.

 

So, really, this is kind of like a misprint.  Misprints can happen. I feel like I could run into something like this again – surely this isn’t the only time that it has happened, that a map has managed to get printed, but it was mis-labeled in its title.  And so, trying to work out a right way to handle that.

 

Many thanks,

 

Sylvia

 

 

 

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Hi Sylvia,

 

Many older maps were laid out on a zero meridian other than Greenwich, our current meridian. Often times there is a note that will say London Meridian, meridian de Paris, Ferro, etc. Seems most countries used their own capitals as their own zero meridian. 

 

When this happens, those lats won't match modern latitudes. You can still put modern coordinates in the record. Those can come from the OCLC authority record or from sources such as bounding box. Then add a 500 note "Ferro meridian" or something like that.

 

If your situation is something other than this example, I'm stumped. Perhaps share a photo of the map in question.

 

Angie

 


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Hello, Great Brain!

 

I’m seeking wisdom on how to approach a particular situation.  What do you do about a map where the title says it is for a particular location, but the coordinates and everything else about the map show that it is actually for a different location?

 

I suppose I could wind up with a catalog record in which the title says the title as it is presented on the map, but then the coordinates and subject terms and everything else about the catalog record describe the map as it really is.  But that seems ornery from a user perspective, because then you are going to see that map in the catalog and click on the title, and then the rest of the description is different than that.  I suppose maybe there’s a way to do some kind of bracketed thing, to show that the map says it is one title but the map is actually for a different location.

 

Any insight is much appreciated.

 

Thanks much,

 

Sylvia

 

 

 

 

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