Angie -- What was the cost for Klokan to maintain the tool?

Paige -- I doubt Google will change their map API to accommodate what is,
essentially, old code in the bounding box tool...

But I wonder...if Klokan isn't going to maintain or update the bounding box
tool, would they open-source license it and let the community maintain it?
It might be a much easier sell to admin to re-task some developer time,
rather than to ask for funding...

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 12:02 PM Andrew, Paige G. <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Thank you for this message Angie!
>
> To alert readers, a link to the MAGIRT map cataloging best practices
> document is in the wrong location and we are reaching out to the editor to
> get this resolved as soon as possible. That said, if you *do* click on
> the link it does take you to the document referenced in the paragraph above
> where the link currently exists.
>
> As for the Klokan tool situation, I use it almost daily in my work and
> have not noticed anything apparent in terms of retrieving the information I
> need from it or navigating the tool. That said, your point is well taken,
> over time the capabilities and comprehensiveness is going to likely become
> an issue for whomever uses the tool. Is the suggestion to get a community
> of libraries (and users from other orgs) to get together and pony up enough
> funds to have Google update a viable one? I am thinking that going to my
> library's administration and making an argument to have the Dean allocate X
> number of dollars would be a tough sell. Would it be better to act as
> "community activists" and come together to ask Google to commit to
> maintaining Klokan over time as a "social good"?
>
> Paige
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Maps-L: Map Librarians, etc. <[log in to unmask]> on behalf
> of Angela R Cope <[log in to unmask]>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 3, 2021 11:18 AM
> *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> *Subject:* Re: WAML IB 53.1 Issue -Kloken bounding box
>
> I'm happy to read the article by Paige and Linda on leveraging technology
> to add coordinates data remotely in the latest WAML bulletin:
> https://waml.org/waml-information-bulletin/volume-53-number-1/leveraging-technology/
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaml.org%2Fwaml-information-bulletin%2Fvolume-53-number-1%2Fleveraging-technology%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cpga2%40PSU.EDU%7C080e7486c60d4398ad5608d9b67b8bc4%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637741464451961165%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=qTe3NCzqPdhTPsgTNUaUahqDz5Iv5SAAjdd6rgnn3lY%3D&reserved=0>
>
> In the article, they mention using the Klokan bounding box tool. As we all
> know (we discussed this a year or two ago), the tool is degrading because
> it is not being maintained. Kloken Tech said, "There was a change of
> Google API that affected Bounding Box ... but there are no plans to restore
> or improve the search feature."
>
> When we discussed this as a group, a few people said they (their
> organizations) would be willing to chip in to pay to have Kloken update and
> maintain the tool. It was costly.
>
> I love using the Kloken bounding box tool and I dread the day it
> disappears. I mean, of course, we can put coordinates data in the old
> fashioned way but are there any of the professional organizations that
> could coordinate gathering money and contracting Kloken to maintain the
> site? WAML, ALA MAGIRT, etc? Seek donations from libraries or individuals?
>
> Well, happy Friday. Nice article Paige and Linda.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Maps-L: Map Librarians, etc. <[log in to unmask]> on behalf
> of Chrissy Klenke <[log in to unmask]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 2, 2021 2:34 PM
> *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> *Subject:* [MAPS-L] WAML IB 53.1 Issue
>
> Hi All,
>
> Thank you all for your patience and a special thanks to Kevin! Please let
> me know if there are any issues.
>
> Here is November 2021 Issue:
> https://waml.org/waml-information-bulletin/volume-53-number-1/
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaml.org%2Fwaml-information-bulletin%2Fvolume-53-number-1%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cpga2%40PSU.EDU%7C080e7486c60d4398ad5608d9b67b8bc4%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637741464451971112%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=3ZyubRmzeYXRDr4XHDJGCrUX8Zj%2FivyGDFs7koZ76LY%3D&reserved=0>
>
> Also, start thinking about submitting something for the next issue March
> 2022! There were some really good presentations I would like to see written
> out! Please contact me if you have any questions, concerns or suggestions.!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best,
> Chrissy
>
> WAML Editor
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