If we don't already have this info, would it be instructive to find out from Klokan what, exactly, the change was and what kind of error it's likely to introduce into the tool's output? Wouldn't it be useful to know, hypothetically, if the error was, say, less than 1% across the board, or only discernible at latitudes above, say, 60 degrees? I'm pulling these examples out of my you-know-what, but I see no reason to throw the bounding box baby out with the bathwater if it's still potentially reliable in some circumstances. mf On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 1:02 PM Andrew, Paige G. <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Thank you for this message Angie! > > To alert readers, a link to the MAGIRT map cataloging best practices > document is in the wrong location and we are reaching out to the editor to > get this resolved as soon as possible. That said, if you *do* click on > the link it does take you to the document referenced in the paragraph above > where the link currently exists. > > As for the Klokan tool situation, I use it almost daily in my work and > have not noticed anything apparent in terms of retrieving the information I > need from it or navigating the tool. That said, your point is well taken, > over time the capabilities and comprehensiveness is going to likely become > an issue for whomever uses the tool. Is the suggestion to get a community > of libraries (and users from other orgs) to get together and pony up enough > funds to have Google update a viable one? I am thinking that going to my > library's administration and making an argument to have the Dean allocate X > number of dollars would be a tough sell. Would it be better to act as > "community activists" and come together to ask Google to commit to > maintaining Klokan over time as a "social good"? > > Paige > ------------------------------ > *From:* Maps-L: Map Librarians, etc. <[log in to unmask]> on behalf > of Angela R Cope <[log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* Friday, December 3, 2021 11:18 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > *Subject:* Re: WAML IB 53.1 Issue -Kloken bounding box > > I'm happy to read the article by Paige and Linda on leveraging technology > to add coordinates data remotely in the latest WAML bulletin: > https://waml.org/waml-information-bulletin/volume-53-number-1/leveraging-technology/ > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaml.org%2Fwaml-information-bulletin%2Fvolume-53-number-1%2Fleveraging-technology%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cpga2%40PSU.EDU%7C080e7486c60d4398ad5608d9b67b8bc4%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637741464451961165%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=qTe3NCzqPdhTPsgTNUaUahqDz5Iv5SAAjdd6rgnn3lY%3D&reserved=0> > > In the article, they mention using the Klokan bounding box tool. As we all > know (we discussed this a year or two ago), the tool is degrading because > it is not being maintained. Kloken Tech said, "There was a change of > Google API that affected Bounding Box ... but there are no plans to restore > or improve the search feature." > > When we discussed this as a group, a few people said they (their > organizations) would be willing to chip in to pay to have Kloken update and > maintain the tool. It was costly. > > I love using the Kloken bounding box tool and I dread the day it > disappears. I mean, of course, we can put coordinates data in the old > fashioned way but are there any of the professional organizations that > could coordinate gathering money and contracting Kloken to maintain the > site? WAML, ALA MAGIRT, etc? Seek donations from libraries or individuals? > > Well, happy Friday. Nice article Paige and Linda. > > Angie > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Maps-L: Map Librarians, etc. <[log in to unmask]> on behalf > of Chrissy Klenke <[log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 2, 2021 2:34 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > *Subject:* [MAPS-L] WAML IB 53.1 Issue > > Hi All, > > Thank you all for your patience and a special thanks to Kevin! Please let > me know if there are any issues. > > Here is November 2021 Issue: > https://waml.org/waml-information-bulletin/volume-53-number-1/ > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaml.org%2Fwaml-information-bulletin%2Fvolume-53-number-1%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cpga2%40PSU.EDU%7C080e7486c60d4398ad5608d9b67b8bc4%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637741464451971112%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=3ZyubRmzeYXRDr4XHDJGCrUX8Zj%2FivyGDFs7koZ76LY%3D&reserved=0> > > Also, start thinking about submitting something for the next issue March > 2022! There were some really good presentations I would like to see written > out! 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