Thank you all. How about throwing Kloken $4000 with the stipulation that the tool get updated and THEN open sourced? I am only a member of MAGIRT and WAML, so I am certainly not talking for the groups. But I know each has the money in the bank. Kloken has 30 employees and have been around for 10 years. $4k is chump change for how much time this tool saves the community. Happy holidays. Jon Jablonski Interdisciplinary Research Collaboratory UCSB Library [log in to unmask] > On Dec 4, 2021, at 6:31 AM, Angela R Cope <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Ryan - back in 2018 when I contacted Kloken Technologies, they said it would take about 20 hours of labor at $200 an hour. I agree, asking them to let one of us map librarian/code people have access to it would be sweet. Can we suggest that they give it to us as a tax write off? > > -a- > > From: Ryan Mattke <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 9:27 PM > To: Maps-L: Map Librarians, etc. <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>; Andrew, Paige G. <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>; Angela R Cope <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > Subject: Re: WAML IB 53.1 Issue -Kloken bounding box > > Angie -- What was the cost for Klokan to maintain the tool? > > Paige -- I doubt Google will change their map API to accommodate what is, essentially, old code in the bounding box tool... > > But I wonder...if Klokan isn't going to maintain or update the bounding box tool, would they open-source license it and let the community maintain it? It might be a much easier sell to admin to re-task some developer time, rather than to ask for funding... > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 12:02 PM Andrew, Paige G. <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > Thank you for this message Angie! > > To alert readers, a link to the MAGIRT map cataloging best practices document is in the wrong location and we are reaching out to the editor to get this resolved as soon as possible. That said, if you doclick on the link it does take you to the document referenced in the paragraph above where the link currently exists. > > As for the Klokan tool situation, I use it almost daily in my work and have not noticed anything apparent in terms of retrieving the information I need from it or navigating the tool. That said, your point is well taken, over time the capabilities and comprehensiveness is going to likely become an issue for whomever uses the tool. Is the suggestion to get a community of libraries (and users from other orgs) to get together and pony up enough funds to have Google update a viable one? I am thinking that going to my library's administration and making an argument to have the Dean allocate X number of dollars would be a tough sell. Would it be better to act as "community activists" and come together to ask Google to commit to maintaining Klokan over time as a "social good"? > > Paige > From: Maps-L: Map Librarians, etc. <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Angela R Cope <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 11:18 AM > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > Subject: Re: WAML IB 53.1 Issue -Kloken bounding box > > I'm happy to read the article by Paige and Linda on leveraging technology to add coordinates data remotely in the latest WAML bulletin: https://waml.org/waml-information-bulletin/volume-53-number-1/leveraging-technology/ <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaml.org%2Fwaml-information-bulletin%2Fvolume-53-number-1%2Fleveraging-technology%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cacope%40uwm.edu%7C06387b69070f4f8d630208d9b6d61fc8%7C0bca7ac3fcb64efd89eb6de97603cf21%7C0%7C0%7C637741854391322675%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=TG3t20NfLQ3HVsvS0hrRZ6U62eq2jn%2B%2BtlYB%2FU7gytc%3D&reserved=0> > > In the article, they mention using the Klokan bounding box tool. As we all know (we discussed this a year or two ago), the tool is degrading because it is not being maintained. Kloken Tech said, "There was a change of Google API that affected Bounding Box ... but there are no plans to restore or improve the search feature." > > When we discussed this as a group, a few people said they (their organizations) would be willing to chip in to pay to have Kloken update and maintain the tool. It was costly. > > I love using the Kloken bounding box tool and I dread the day it disappears. I mean, of course, we can put coordinates data in the old fashioned way but are there any of the professional organizations that could coordinate gathering money and contracting Kloken to maintain the site? WAML, ALA MAGIRT, etc? Seek donations from libraries or individuals? > > Well, happy Friday. Nice article Paige and Linda. > > Angie > > > > From: Maps-L: Map Librarians, etc. <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Chrissy Klenke <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 2:34 PM > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > Subject: [MAPS-L] WAML IB 53.1 Issue > > Hi All, > > Thank you all for your patience and a special thanks to Kevin! Please let me know if there are any issues. > > Here is November 2021 Issue: https://waml.org/waml-information-bulletin/volume-53-number-1/ <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaml.org%2Fwaml-information-bulletin%2Fvolume-53-number-1%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cacope%40uwm.edu%7C06387b69070f4f8d630208d9b6d61fc8%7C0bca7ac3fcb64efd89eb6de97603cf21%7C0%7C0%7C637741854391332640%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Z7BOwq%2FzlNiPhB89tIaCn0phorVNsRmFV9YrakEr69M%3D&reserved=0> > > Also, start thinking about submitting something for the next issue March 2022! There were some really good presentations I would like to see written out! Please contact me if you have any questions, concerns or suggestions.! > > Thank you! > > Best, > Chrissy > > WAML Editor > > ________________________________________ > Chrissy Klenke > Earth Sciences, GIS, and Maps Librarian > DeLaMare Science & Engineering Library > University of Nevada, Reno > 1664 N. 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