----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Yes, the Internet is still in childhood, but it is no longer in infancy. And it is learning rapidly to manage wildweed growth. Creating a discussion list about ANY thing for ANY reason is no longer defined as acceptable. To gate ASIS-L over to UseNet we had to demonstrate to administrators that it filled an unmet need, that creation of the list was justified and could not be handled under an already existing umbrella discussion list. We had to define the number of existing or expected subscribers and the level of anticipated activity. Part of that process included asking the parent list subscribers AND members of any other list covering the same general topic if there was any objection to the creation of that list. It also included asking for discussion by discussion list administrators. According to those rules, if discussion included ANY strong objections, a vote had to be taken over a 7 day period and the results posted and followed. Strong objections have, in my view, been made. Perspectives on a new list, pro and con, have been offered. I call for those proposing the new list to take a vote by personal mail and post its results. Then we all follow those results and discussion is ceased. Debra Lords [log in to unmask] Marriott Library University of Utah