These two messages are from Mark Johnson.------------Johnnie ------------------------------------------------ : "Mark Johnson" <[log in to unmask]> : RE: map martyrs Along the lines of Freedom/Liberty, you might consider the mysterious case of the "moving" cities on Soviet maps. I recall seeing, a few years back, at least two articles on the subject of intentional falsification of publicly-available maps. Seems that one was a journal article and another was in a major newspaper (New York Times?). Another idea (this really stretches the subject) is the survival maps carried by military aviators. During WWII and into early Vietnam era they carried silk maps (usually 1:250K and 1:1mil scale). More recently, the military uses specially-treated paper survival maps that can double as ponchos, shelters, litters, etc. The maps are chock-full of information to help the user reach friendly lines a..n..d...freedom-slash-liberty :) Oh well, I tried. Sorry, I'll keep the neurons firing on the martyr question. Mark ------------------------------- "Mark Johnson" <[log in to unmask]> RE: map martyrs (2) Just as I sent that last note, my half-serious bit on survival maps caused a major memory surge. Call the Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio!! They have a major exhibit on the WWII POWs, including the most amazing things made out of tin cans, red cross boxes, bits of metal, etc. I bet some enterprising prisoner made, or had hidden away, a MAP! Other thoughts: the revolutionary war; the civil war (what was the name of Stonewall Jackson's cartographer? Hitchkoss?); the Soviet gulags... Mark