----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5016; Thu, 13 Oct 1994 18:02:00 -0400 Return-Path: <@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:[log in to unmask]> Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (NJE origin MAILER@CUNYVMV2) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8688; Thu, 13 Oct 1994 17:26:55 -0400 Received: from CUNYVM (NJE origin SMTP3@CUNYVM) by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1056; Thu, 13 Oct 1994 17:23:53 -0400 Received: from ucsd.edu by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 13 Oct 94 17:21:00 EDT Received: by ucsd.edu; id OAA23085 sendmail 8.6.9/UCSD-2.2-sun via CCMail Thu, 13 Oct 1994 14:20:58 -0700 for [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] Received: by ucsd.edu from UCSDLIBRARY.UCSD.EDU id <[log in to unmask]> with CCTORFC Thu Oct 13 21:20:57 1994 X-Delivery-Error: Not deliverable to: eva lee at PATHOLOGY Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 14:16:00 -0700 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: mcmapping ---------------------------------- Forwarded ---------------------------------- From: Joanne Donovan Date: 9/21/94 8:14AM To: Larry Cruse Subject: GovAccess.060: USGS & NASA data-readers; Smart Valley summar ---------------------------------- Forwarded ---------------------------------- From: [log in to unmask] at @UCSD Date: 9/20/94 9:12PM *To: [log in to unmask] at @UCSD Subject: GovAccess.060: USGS & NASA data-readers; Smart Valley summar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MAC VIEWERS FOR USGS AND NOAA DATASETS From <@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU:[log in to unmask]> Sun Sep 18 08:09:33 1994 X-Sender: [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] (Gib Henry) Y'all have expressed an interest in mapping software for the Mac. Nils Davis ([log in to unmask]) was kind enough to provide some very detailed info which I'm forwarding after the following "lets play catch-up" quotes. [My original message to Busbey <[log in to unmask]>:] >I saw your unrelated post on MACPB-L and noticed that you're a geologist, >so I was wondering if you could point me toward a Mac viewer for all that >USGS data that lives out there. I can download the stuff, but I can't find >anything that'll open and view the maps. > >I've tried NIH's Image 4.pds and it won't work either (unless I'm doing >something wrong in the downloading process). Can your give me any >pointers? >>> [His response:] >Howdy, > Could you be a little more specific about the files? There are lots of >different kind of files on the USGS servers. Besides the fact that they >are in many different formats many are also 'zipped' or 'uuencoded'. I >have run across files in jpeg, postscript, dlg, dem & other formats. Some >I have found ways to read and some require conversion software (such as >CAD-mover) that I don't have. Send me the URL for the particular >site you obtained files from and the names of the files and I'll see >what I can do. > Many of the earth observation NASA images are in jpeg format so you >need some kind of jpeg converter - that is why I like to download them >using Mosaic, since it does jpeg conversion (with help). > Sorry I can't be of much more help right now. >Art A while ago I responded to the above. Since then, I've discovered MacGIS, shareware which apparently can display DLG's and perhaps some other formats. There is a demo version available. Nils Davis was kind enough to send me the following .html page (I purposely didn't use any quoting character, since you'd have a hell of a time reading the html in your browser if I did!): [From Nils Davis ([log in to unmask]):] >>>>>>>>>> Gib -- ... <omitted html document that contained the results of a search he did on GIS resources for the Macintosh. The first entry (http://abacus.bates.edu/~nsmith/General/Resources-GIS.html, "Internet resources for geographic information and GIS"), was where he found the information that led me to MacGIS. The site that has MacGIS is the MacGIS gopher server at the University of Oregon. The url is gopher://dslmac.uoregon.edu/1D-1%3a31820%3amacGIS%20Gopher.> FOLLOWED BY THIS NOTE From [log in to unmask] Sun Sep 18 12:17:19 1994 From: [log in to unmask] (Art Busbey) ... The last I knew MacGIS was still a commercial product. If it is has become shareware then they must have given up serious development. Otherwise, there is Map II (since its big brother, MapFactory, is not available yet). Map II doesn't read dlg data but does read a variety of other formats. If MapFactor (for which I am a beta tester) ever comes out it should provide most of the raster-based GIS anyone might usually need and provides c-based plug-in models for read and exporting to a variety of formats. Also, as long as we are on dlg format, if you purchase SurfaceIII from the Kansas Geological Survey (their contouring software) it comes with a utility that converts dlg vectors files into SurfaceIII ROUT files. The other big-time contouring mapping packages on the Mac, MacGridzo and MCadContour do not support dlg input to my knowledge. The only serious Macintosh pure GIS product right now is MacGRASS, but that requires AUX to run. It is just the Macintosh port of the Corps of Engineers GRASS raster GIS system and functions like GRASS on any platform. If it comes out MapFactory will also be a serious professional GIS tool. If you are interested in the image processing side of GIS then MultiSpec (from Purdue) and Dimple (from Cherwell Scientific Publishing) are geared toward image processing and multispectral data analysis. I have heard of Mac support in two other image process/GIS programs that normally run under UNIX, ENVI and (hell I forgot the name of the other and can't look it up now). This looks like babling, but since I try to keep up with any mapping/GIS.image processing applications for the Mac I am interested in spreading information and also collecting same. I will look and see if the shareware version of MacGIS is the last commercial version I saw. Art Busbey, Ph.D. | Associate Professor of Geology Department of Geology - TCU | [log in to unmask] Box 30798 | (817) 921-7270 - VOICE Fort Worth, TX 76129 | (817) 921-7789 - FAX Blurb: I write a Macintosh software column for Geotimes. 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