----------------------------Original message---------------------------- In addition to the rule Velma Parker has cited, the other application and rule that may relate to the date(s) in the 260 field and be cause for some apparent inconsistencies (different expressions of catalogers' judgment) are the application under 4F1 in "Cartographic Materials," p. 77-78, and rule 4F6 in "Cartographic Materials" (1.4F6 in AACR2R). Under the former, if a publication, copyright, or printing date is lacking on the item, one of the ways a publication date can be inferred is from a "printing or publisher's code" (such as the last 2 digits in a CIA map code number), in which case the date code is inferred to represent a publication date and is recorded in square brackets, presumably in subfield c. And that may very well be a printing date. Under the latter rule, if the date of publication is unknown, give the copyright date, or in its absence, the date of manufacture, indicated as such, in its place. The example given is ", 1967 printing." And I figure that also should be in subfield c. Is that right? When the cataloger feels knowledgeable about the publisher, he or she probably uses judgment in inferring publication date from printing date in some cases (USGS maps come to mind), and perhaps that is not explicitly covered in the rules. And then I think I've probably made a further jump (carelessness, or inconsistency) in leaving off square brackets on some of those inferred publication dates. With a publisher you are less familiar with, you might have a tendency to stick more closely to the rules and label a printing date as such. (You may even be making an interpretation of what is a printing date and what is a publication date, if they are not explicitly labelled.) Nancy Kandoian [log in to unmask] ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: printing/publishing dates Author: Velma Parker <[log in to unmask]> at Internet Date: 11/4/96 12:00 PM ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- >Chris According to the rules in "Cartographic materials: a manual of interpretation of AACR2", the publication date is always recorded. If both the date of publication and the date of printing are present, the date of publication is recorded first and the date of printing may be added in parentheses after. See rule 4G4 (or if you are using AACR2R rule 3.4G2). In tag 269 an example could be: $aAustin :$bTexas Dept. of Water Resources,$c1977$g(1978 printing). The recording of the printing date is optional and should follow institutional guidelines. If it is recorded in the record at all, the above is the easiest and simplest way of doing so. Call numbers should have the date of situation. If there is no indication otherwise, then the date of situation is assumed to be that of the date of publication, or as near as is possible to tell. The printing date should not be used as the date of situation in the call number. The Library of Congress "Map Cataloging Manual" gives instruction on recording a second date on page 1.21. Second dates are to be used for "facsimiles and formally published reprints". For these, the second date is the last element in the call number: "G4314.C5A3 1882 .S7 1967". Hope this helps >----------------------------Original message---------------------------- >Nancy Kandoian's question about the new printing of the >Yosemite map brings up an embarrassingly elementary >cataloging question: > >When a map's printing date and publication date differ, >which date is supposed to go in the 260c (and the 008 >publication date slot)? It's my impression that the great >majority of libraries that contribute to OCLC use the >printing date here, certainly in the case of USGS maps where >the tiny date just beyond the lower right edge of the >neatline gets put in the 260c. However, some libraries >(including, often, LC) prefer to use the publication date in >the 260c and to put the printing date in subfield g of the >260 (in parentheses). Contrast OCLC 19481445 (GPO) and >21445385 (DLC) for an example. (It may be relevant that the >(book) catalogers in this library, if I've understood them >correctly, go so far as to argue that the printing date, >if it needs to be recorded at all, should go in a local >note.) > >A related issue is what to do with the call >number. Shouldn't the date in the call number be the >publication date rather than the printing date since that >must be closer to the date of situation? And, in the case >of a reprint, shouldn't one then add the printing date after >the author Cutter? This doesn't exactly seem to be what >libraries usually do, but see OCLC 25170639 for an example >(from GIS). > >I realize that the concepts "publication date" and >"printing date" don't always fit map publishing practices >very well and that the whole question is somewhat >complicated by the USGS updating patterns about which Nancy >writes. But I'm really inquiring about the cataloging rules. > >Please forgive my asking about what may be an ancient map >cataloging issue. It's one I feel very confused about and >certainly one on which map catalogers are extremely >inconsistent. > >Thanks for any answers. > >Chris Winters >University of Chicago Library > >Internet: [log in to unmask] > > -- Velma Parker National Archives of Canada [log in to unmask] Internet: [log in to unmask] (613)996-7611 Fax: (613)995-6575