----------------------------Original message---------------------------- At 01:13 PM 24/04/1997 EDT, Dennis McClendon wrote: >----------------------------Original message---------------------------- >The Postal Service, National Rail Passenger Corp. (Amtrak), and some other >"agencies" are not considered part of the United States Government. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I take the liberty of quoting from the House PO & Civil Service Committee Report H226 accompanying House of Reps Bill 91-1104 (Public Law 91-375 Postal Reorganization Act), passed 6 Aug 1970: "The Post Office Department is abolished as a Cabinet-level Department. In its stead H.R. 17070 creates an INDEPENDENT ESTABLISHMENT within the executive branch of the government to own and operate the Nation's postal system, known as the United States Postal Service". From 374 Federal Supplement 162 we find: "...the term 'executive agency' [of the government] is defined... in 5 U.S.C. @ 105 to include ANY 'independent establishment,' a term itself defined in 5 U.S.C. 104." I don't know about AMTRAK, but the Postal Service is an integral part and "agency" of the government, no matter how you slice it. If agencies of the government cannot copyright things, then the USPS should not be able to do that, either... but it does. Maybe there's an exemption for this agency somewhere in the postal, copyright or other laws - and maybe there are also similar exemptions in place to allow agencies to copyright their maps. Maybe, maybe, maybe. Therefore, the caution note I posted about "willy nilly" copying the government's maps is valid. Len Nadybal