----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Ron Whistance-Smith Canada Dear Ron: Do you have access to the following 4-part work? Repertorium aller Oerter und anderer Gegenstaende in der topographisch-militaerischen Charte von Teutschland in 204 Blaettern. - Weimar: Geographisches Institut, 1812-13. - 4 vol.; 22cm. - Contents: 1te Abtheilung: Nordoestliches Viertel [NE quarter] (256p.) - 2te Abth.: Suedosestliches Viertel [SE quarter] (216p.) - 3te Abth.: Nordwestliches Viertel [NW quarter] (326p.) - 4te Abth.: Suedwestliches Viertel [SW quarter] (228p.) The pagination excludes preliminaries (including an index map showing sheet numbers of places/features listed in the gazetteer); each page is double-columned - so the work is not as small as you might imagine! There are 4 x Biesdorf (and 1 x Biensdorf & 1 x Biendorf) and 1 x Kreidelwitz (the 'i' is interchangeable with a 'y' at this time) in the NE vol.; there are 3 x Biesdorf (and 1 x Biessdorf & 2 x Biendorf) in the NW vol.; and 1 x Bierdorf in the SW vol. There is a 'Grammentin' in the NE vol. in what may have been Brandenburg at one point of its boundary changes. I suggest, if you cannot get to this publication (and the set of maps), that we discuss the problem, narrowing down the possibilities of your Bien/Bier/Bies-dorf[s], off-list (to avoid boring the pants of other readers) as we have the complete work here in the RGS. Best wishes Francis (Herbert) Curator of Maps, RGS, London [log in to unmask] Map Room