James R. Woodard State Director, Agriculture Education Georgia Department of Education 1758 Twin Towers East Atlanta, Ga. 30334 Phone: 404-657-8312 Fax: 404-656-5911 email: [log in to unmask] ----- Forwarded by James Woodard/SLA/DOE/GADOE on 11/18/2002 11:46 AM ----- "Shane Dunbar" <parli-pro@everet To: <[log in to unmask]> t.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: FREE Parli-pro E-Bulletin owner-usaged-l@pu rdue.edu 11/18/2002 11:20 AM Please respond to "Shane Dunbar" PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE E-BULLETIN #8 Volume 2, Number 4 (November18, 2002) This is a FREE quarterly publication by Shane D. Dunbar (MEd), Professional Registered Parliamentarian, that is designed to be FORWARDED BY YOU to FFA Chapter Advisors. ==> ANNOUNCEMENTS ==> PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE SITES WORTH VISITING ==> QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ==> TIP ON TRAINING A TEAM FROM NATIONAL WINNERS ==> SEND COMMENTS REGARDING THIS BULLETIN TO: [log in to unmask] ANNOUNCEMENTS Log on to the California FFA Web site for all earlier E-Bulletins (1-7): www.calaged.org/students/parliamentary Suggest you set up a parmanent link to them on your state web site. L@@K SIX FREE PARLI-PRO CARDS FOR TEACHERS! Each wallet-sized card features the basic rules for 25 motions (including the required motions for the FFA Parliamentary Procedure CDE). E-mail your name, subject taught, school, and address to: [log in to unmask] Four motions that are always Out of Order (even if adopted by a unanimous vote): 1. Motions which conflict with laws (federal, state, or local), or with bylaws, constitution, or rules of the organization; 2. Motions which present something already rejected during the same session, or conflict with a motion already adopted; 3. Motions which conflict with or present substantially the same question as one which has been temporarily disposed of (meaning, Postponed, Laid on Table, Referred to Commitee, or Being Reconsidered); 4. Motions which propose actions beyond the scope of the organization's bylaws. (However, a 2/3 vote may allow this kind of motion). The fifth printing of Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised (10th edition) has corrected over 30 errors. Check the bottom line of the copyright page for the book's printing number. From the National FFA Parliamentary Procedure CDE Superintendent (Dr. Jim Connors: [log in to unmask]) Forty-three teams participated in the 2002 National FFA Parlimentary Procedure CDE at Lousiville, Kentucky. Top Four Gold Medal Teams: First: Bear River High School, California Second: Ritzville High School, Missouri Third: Cheyenne High School, Wyoming Fourth: Stephens County High School, Georgia PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE SITES WORTH VISITING www.elimina.com/subscribe (FREE Parliamentary Procedure Deliberations Newsletter.) See www.elimina.com/newsletters for sample) www.ffaunlimited.org/parprocteacm.html (Parlimentary Procedure teaching materials from the FFA Web Catalog) www.parliamentaryprocedure.org/certification/index.html (A fast, easy way to contact Certified Professional Parliamentarians) QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS: Two questions are answered on each E-Bulletin. Send them to [log in to unmask] If questions that were submitted do not appear on an E-Bulletin, they will be answered personally by e-mail. All answers are based on the 10th edition (October 2002) of Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised (RONR). Q: Must the name of the seconder of a motion be included in the minutes? A: No, the name of the mover of important motions should be recorded in the minutes but not the name of the unless ordered by the assembly. RONR (10th ed.), p. 453, l. 29,30 Q: If a member on the floor abuses or casts mean, damaging, and untrue statements upon a member, what can we do? A: Raise a Point of Order. This type of behavior is indecorum in debate. If you have a knowledgeable presiding oficer, he/she will at once call the speaker to order. RONR (10th ed.) p. 247, l. 8,9; p. 380, l. 11-14; p. 627, l. 3-35; p. 628, l. 1-19 TIP ON TRAINING A TEAM FROM NATIONAL WINNERS Invite team member relatives to observe an presentation which can be held in the evening.