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State Director, Agriculture Education
Georgia Department of Education
1758 Twin Towers East
Atlanta, Ga. 30334
Phone: 404-657-8312
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PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE E-BULLETIN #8
Volume 2, Number 4 (November18, 2002)


This is a FREE quarterly publication by Shane D. Dunbar (MEd), Professional
Registered Parliamentarian, that is designed to be FORWARDED BY YOU to FFA
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       Four motions that are always Out of Order (even if adopted by a
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         1. Motions which conflict with laws (federal, state, or local), or
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Q: Must the name of the seconder of a motion be included in the minutes?


A: No, the name of the mover of important motions should be recorded in the
minutes but not the name of the unless ordered by the assembly. RONR (10th
ed.), p. 453, l. 29,30


Q: If a member on the floor abuses or casts mean, damaging, and untrue
statements upon a member, what can we do?


A: Raise a Point of Order. This type of behavior is indecorum in debate. If
you have a knowledgeable presiding oficer, he/she will at once call the
speaker to order. RONR (10th ed.) p. 247, l. 8,9; p. 380, l. 11-14; p. 627,
l. 3-35; p. 628, l. 1-19





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