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From: "Paige Andrew" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "Air Photo Maps, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 7:28:50 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: Searching Government Publications in Google Books | ALA Task Force on Google Books Settlement
Since PSU is a Google Books project partner through the CIC I get
updates on the project once in a while in different venues here at
work. If I recall correctly, they are not scanning atlases during
this phase/version of the project but it is something, along with
maps and other graphic images, that they'd like to do later...
Paige
At 07:53 PM 1/12/2010, you wrote:
>Forwarded from Govdocs ... does anyone know if Google Books is
>scanning atlases? I remember hearing that they weren't including
>folded maps in books ...
>
>Angie
>
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>From: "Amy West" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:30:23 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>Subject: Searching Government Publications in Google Books | ALA
>Task Force on Google Books Settlement
>
>Hi all,
>
>I want to call your attention to an issue about which I hope GODORT or other
>ALA members on this list will have an opinion: users' ability to locate
>digitized government publications via http://books.google.com. Bill Sleeman
>has been representing GODORT on the ALA Task Force on the Google Books
>Settlement. He has tried repeatedly to get some momentum around the issue
>of access to government publications digitized by Google from Google Books
>at http://books.google.com. You can see his latest effort at
>
>Google and Government Documents. Should ALA work with Google to make federal
>documents scanned from FDLP collections available in full-text for all
>users? Read about it on ALA Connect at http://connect.ala.org/node/91525
>
>Background:
>The situation is a little complicated, but I believe I am correctly
>summarizing it when I say that:
>
> - Google is digitizing materials that are otherwise considered public
> domain, like what libraries receive via the FDLP.
> - Google's basic rule is pre-1923 materials are public domain and will be
> fully available.
> - Google's other basic rule is that post-1923 materials are not public
> domain and will not be fully available.
> - However, government publications should be an exception to this rule.
> - Google has included in both versions of its settlement a Safe Harbor
> provision which should provide legal cover for full display of works that
> may contain copyrighted material prior to a full determination
> of the status
> of any included copyrighted material.
> - Google's position re post-1923 government publications is that they may
> contain copyrighted material - in hearings for example.
> - Google does not appear to be using the Safe Harbor provisions to make
> post-1923 government publications available.
> - In fact, Google appears to be taking the most cautious approach
> possible.
>
>
>While I understand that Google is being sued by pretty much everyone ever,
>like Bill, I have concerns not only about Google's approach to post-1923
>government publications, but ALA reactions to the same. Yes, eventually,
>there will be points of access to digitized materials from library
>partnerships. And yes, libraries can subscribe to fee-based services for
>digital copies of government publications. But I feel both of these
>reactions miss the point. If the material can be made fully available, why
>isn't it? If Google has built itself a loophole for materials that might be
>questionable, why aren't we seeing it in action? If the materials are
>already digitized, why should anyone have to wait for Library Partners to
>update their catalogs? For that matter, why should we expect users to go to
>any individual catalog or other database when it's _Google_ - the default
>search tool for most Internet users - that has the digitized materials
>already?
>
>Possible Action:
>If you care to follow ALA's activities on this topic or share your views,
>consider logging into ALA Connect at http://connect.ala.org and joining the
>group at this address: http://connect.ala.org/node/90049
>
>Best,
>Amy West / GODORT Chair
>--
>A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy
>enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
>
>Amy West
>Data Services Librarian
>10 Wilson Library
>University of Minnesota
>309 - 19th Avenue South
>Minneapolis, MN 55455-0414
>Phone: (612) 625-6368
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