Without the dark lip, how is it distinguished from hortensis? ~~Aydin http://snailstales.blogspot.com http://home.earthlink.net/~aydinslibrary/ http://www.facebook.com/aydin.orstan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [log in to unmask] - a forum for informal discussions on molluscs To leave this list, click on the following web link: http://listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=conch-l&A=1 Type your email address and name in the appropriate box and click leave the list. ----------------------------------------------------------------------