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Yep. Massive kills of tons picked up. But it’s been six weeks since the huge stench and die offs. 

Sent from my iPhone without schpel check


> On Oct 8, 2018, at 9:48 AM, David Kirsh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Clair, that’s good news for Sanibel at least. I thought Sanibel had gotten massive fish kills in recent weeks.
> 
> David Kirsh, LPC, RN
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Clair Beckmann <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> As of the local news last night Red Tide was in Charlotte Harbor and Ft Myers beach at moderate levels. No red tide on Sanibel or Causeway Islands. I have seen no major mollusk mortality here on sanibel. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone without schpel check
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, steve rosenthal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Harry et al,
>>> 
>>> As Harry knows, I am not in fastidious edit mode when I type emails,
>>> especially on a small keyboard on a small computer with a tricky
>>> caps/cap lock key.....  However any taxonomic (Latin) errors are to be
>>> ascribed elsewhere as the bulk of my email was a cut and paste from
>>> the FWC red tide report.
>>> 
>>> Regarding the actual impacts of the red tide, perhaps Ken Piech or
>>> others can comment if there continues to be any unusual apparent
>>> molluscan mortality down there still.
>>> 
>>> SR
>>> 
>>>> On 10/5/18, José H. Leal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> "Basionym *Gymnodinium breve* ..."
>>>> _______________________________________________________
>>>> José H. Leal, Ph.D., Science Director & Curator
>>>> Bailey-Matthews National Shell Museum
>>>> Editor, The Nautilus
>>>> 
>>>> 3075 Sanibel-Captiva Road
>>>> Sanibel, FL 33957 USA
>>>> (239)395-2233
>>>> 
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>> As of the local news last night Red Tide was in Charlotte Harbor and Ft Myers beach at moderate levels. No red tide on Sanibel or Causeway Islands. I have seen no major mollusk mortality here on sanibel. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone without schpel check
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, steve rosenthal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Harry et al,
>>> 
>>> As Harry knows, I am not in fastidious edit mode when I type emails,
>>> especially on a small keyboard on a small computer with a tricky
>>> caps/cap lock key.....  However any taxonomic (Latin) errors are to be
>>> ascribed elsewhere as the bulk of my email was a cut and paste from
>>> the FWC red tide report.
>>> 
>>> Regarding the actual impacts of the red tide, perhaps Ken Piech or
>>> others can comment if there continues to be any unusual apparent
>>> molluscan mortality down there still.
>>> 
>>> SR
>>> 
>>>> On 10/5/18, José H. Leal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> "Basionym *Gymnodinium breve* ..."
>>>> _______________________________________________________
>>>> José H. Leal, Ph.D., Science Director & Curator
>>>> Bailey-Matthews National Shell Museum
>>>> Editor, The Nautilus
>>>> 
>>>> 3075 Sanibel-Captiva Road
>>>> Sanibel, FL 33957 USA
>>>> (239)395-2233
>>>> 
>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is confidential, may be
>>>> privileged and is meant only for the intended recipient. If you are not the
>>>> intended recipient, please notify the sender ASAP and delete this message
>>>> from your system.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 12:22 PM Harry Lee <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Steve,
>>>>> 
>>>>> One wonders how come you go to the trouble of to capitalizing the words
>>>>> "Red Tide" and "NOT" but not "i," "steven," and "rosenthal." Have you
>>>>> developed a double standard or is it metaphoric modesty?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I take it another of your begrudged capital letters, "K." [no italics to
>>>>> simulate what may be a keyboard or programmatic shortcoming] stands for
>>>>> *Karenia
>>>>> *<http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=233015>
>>>>> <http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=233015>, the
>>>>> genus into which the principal red tide agent (basionym *Gymnodidium
>>>>> breve* Davis, 1948; e.g., <http://www.jaxshells.org/mollusk2.htm>
>>>>> <http://www.jaxshells.org/mollusk2.htm>) has been transferred. Note that
>>>>> the the nomenclatorial convention used for the Kingdom Chromista, like
>>>>> that
>>>>> of that of our botanist buddies, exalt the author who placed the
>>>>> species-level taxon in the currently-accepted genus and relegate the guy
>>>>> who did the original heavy-lifting to parentheses. Those who demean the
>>>>> complexities of the International Code of *Zoological* [emphasis added]
>>>>> Nomenclature should be thankful they're not operating under the
>>>>> cumbersome
>>>>> constraints of those taxonomists working with non-animal biota.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your grammatical gadfly/conchological cohort,
>>>>> Harry
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/4/2018 5:38 PM, steve rosenthal wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> re Red Tides - the FLorida wildlife commision (FWC) issues a weekly
>>>>> report, you can access it by googling "Florida Red Tide Report"> I
>>>>> will past the most recent one below (Atlantic coast is indeed
>>>>> mentioned)  that i just looked up.  Note that various sites for Lee
>>>>> County offer info on Red Tides, one i viewed recently implied that all
>>>>> was well, but its NOT according to the FWC site...  i would NOT trust
>>>>> anything that is  coming from local sites with a commercial stake.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Red Tide Mid-Week Update for October 3, 2018
>>>>> Current Conditions
>>>>> A bloom of the Florida red tide organism, Karenia brevis, persists in
>>>>> Southwest Florida and extends along ~135 miles of coastline, from
>>>>> northern Pinellas to northern Collier counties, and offshore (10 miles
>>>>> or more). A patchy bloom of K. brevis continues in Northwest Florida.
>>>>> A bloom of K. brevis was also observed on Florida’s East Coast for the
>>>>> first time this past week. Additional details are provided below.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Over the past week in Southwest Florida, K. brevis concentrations
>>>>> generally decreased in areas of Manatee, Sarasota, Charlotte, Lee and
>>>>> Collier counties, creating patchier bloom conditions along the coast.
>>>>> Observations of >1,000,000 K. brevis cells per liter (“high”
>>>>> concentrations) occurred in Pinellas, Hillsborough, Sarasota, and Lee
>>>>> counties and >10 miles offshore of Hillsborough County, but at fewer
>>>>> sites relative to last week.
>>>>> In Northwest Florida, K. brevis was observed in or offshore of
>>>>> Okaloosa, Walton, Bay, Gulf, and Pasco counties, with up to “medium”
>>>>> concentrations observed in Bay County and offshore of Walton County.
>>>>> On the East Coast, K. brevis was observed in St. Lucie, Martin and
>>>>> Palm Beach counties; up to “medium” concentrations occurred only in
>>>>> and offshore of Palm Beach County.
>>>>> Fish Kills
>>>>> In Southwest Florida, reports of fish kills were received for multiple
>>>>> locations in Pinellas, Manatee, Sarasota, Charlotte, Lee and Collier
>>>>> counties. In Northwest Florida, reports of fish kills were received
>>>>> for areas in and/or offshore of Okaloosa, Walton, Bay, Gulf and
>>>>> Franklin counties. Along the East Coast of Florida, reports of fish
>>>>> kills were received for St. Lucie and Palm Beach counties.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Respiratory Irritation
>>>>> Respiratory irritation was reported in Southwest Florida (in Pinellas,
>>>>> Manatee, Sarasota, Lee and Collier counties) and along the East Coast
>>>>> of Florida (in Palm Beach and St. Lucie counties) over the past week.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Forecast
>>>>> Forecasts by the USF-FWC Collaboration for Prediction of Red
>>>>> TidesExternal Website for Pinellas to northern Monroe counties predict
>>>>> northwestern transport of surface waters and net southeastern movement
>>>>> of subsurface waters for most areas over the next three days.
>>>>> Three-day forecasts for Northwest Florida predict minimal net
>>>>> transport of surface waters and northeastern movement of subsurface
>>>>> waters from Escambia to western Gulf counties. Forecasts for Pasco
>>>>> County predict northwestern transport of surface waters and eastern
>>>>> movement of subsurface waters over the next 3 days.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The next complete red tide status report will be posted on Friday, October
>>>>> 5th.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Red Tide Status Map (October 3, 2018)
>>>>> 09-25-10-02.jpg
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/4/18, Karlynn Morgan <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> According to reports I've received, Portsmouth, Ocracoke and Shackleford
>>>>> Islands are open.  I've seen photos of a huge beach haul from
>>>>> Portsmouth.   No Red Tide reports from NC - Good Luck!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Karlynn
>>>>> NC - USA
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/4/2018 5:06 PM, David Kirsh wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has anyone been to the NC coastline post Florence? In the last week or
>>>>> so?
>>>>> Are there places that are passable for collecting?
>>>>> 
>>>>> In a different area: I saw one report that the Red Tide on Florida’s
>>>>> southwest is not only severe and continuing but is forecast to possibly
>>>>> last into the winter tourist season. I also heard another report that Red
>>>>> Tide has reached the Atlantic Coast. Have others heard about this
>>>>> continuing through the winter months?
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Kirsh, LPC, RN
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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