Dear Art,
Most what is known about the fate of the pre-Linnaean collections you will
find in the two editions of S.P. Dance, 1966: Shell collecting An
illustrated history (1st Ed.), or 1986: A history of shell collecting (2nd
Ed.).
However, I will not be surprised to hear that here and there in the cellars
of a monastery in France, Italy and maybe Spain some old, forgotten shell
treasures are awaiting rediscovery.
Best regards,
Henk K. Mienis
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Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: Old Collections
> Dear All;-
> Of course I know about ancient finds of shell ornaments. Not what I'm
> asking about. What I'm asking about is "Collectors and their collections".
> Did the Earl of Ipswich leave a collection in 1275? Does a Museum still
> have the collection of Louis the third? Whenever that was?
> Q Man
>>
>> From: umit <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: 2004/12/13 Mon AM 03:45:05 EST
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Old Collections
>>
>> Dont you remember the discussion in this list about the identity of 75000
>> years old (!) ornamental shell of Natica among a South African cave
>> finds?
>>
>> However there may have been the ormantal use of shells common around
>> 30000
>> years ago in circum-mediterranean cultures
>>
>> Ümit
>>
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>> From: "Riccardo Giannuzzi-Savelli" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: Old Collections
>>
>>
>> > First shells collectors seems to be inhabitant of some caves in France
>> > about thirty thousand years ago. In this cave was found wearing
>> > necklaces
>> of
>> > shells which could only have been gathered from Atlantic or
>> > Mediterranean
>> > shores.
>> > All the best
>> > Riccardo Giannuzzi Savelli
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >The Question Man Asks:
>> > > It appears to us that Shell cvollecting is a relatively new
>> > >sport. That is---there doesn't appear to be many records predating
>> > >Linne.
>> > > But is this so?
>> > > Are there records of collectors dating back to the middle ages?
>> > >Kings? Crusaders? Japanese Emperors? Would Patrice Bail or Tom
>> > >Eichorst know? Are there musty non-displayable conchs hidden in
>> > >places even the curators no longer frequent?
>> > > Wouldn't it be interesting---if----
>> > > The Q Man
>> > >
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