Hi, everyone!
I agree completely with this opinion. I see little, if any,
malacological/conchological value in this discussion. If we
want to discuss political issues, then let's stick to those
that are directly related to the purpose of this List. If
not, then let's leave them alone.
All the best from Korea!
Ron Noseworthy
>
Topics like this make me want to leave the List. How in
> the world can we assume what any scientist's ideology is?
> Or for that matter, any person interested in natural
> science. I have a son who is a PHD research scientist. He
> is also a sheller with a very active interest in
> environmental issues. He definitely leans to the right. I,
> myself am a centrist. Let's keep our personal agenda off
> the list and stick to shell collecting.
>
> Paul Kanner
>
> PS: This is the first posting I have ever made to this
> list not directly relating to conchology.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J. Ross Mayhew" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 2:51 PM
> Subject: No "venom" (or even snakes!!) involved.
>
>
> > The sideways suggestion has been made that it is
> > improper to hypothesise or opine in this *discussion*
> > list, upon such highly relevant matters as the decline
> of interest in, teaching of, and basing of public policies
> > ( such as those which affect our oceans and other
> > waterways, hence the molluscan populations they
> > contain......) upon solid, relevant science. I submit
> that such discussions are indeed germaine to the interests
> > of such a sceince-based pursuit such as Conchology, and
> > that we shouldn't steer clear from potential
> > controversy in the name of sticking rigorously to a
> > tightly-defined notion of what precisely is "on topic"
> for such a forum as this. Granted, we should rigorously
> > steer clear of such matters as partisan politics, but
> > general references to "right" and "left" - leaning
> > ideologies should not be out of bounds so long as the
> material being discussed is in fact relevant to the aims
> > and interests of many on the list. An overly-strict
> > interpretation of exactly what is "permissible" to say
> > in any discussion group, tends to send a chill
> throughout the entire discourse. So long as a posting has
> > significant resonance with the purposes of the group as
> > a whole (for example, ecologically-based articles on
> > coral reefs, where a large proportion of shell-bearing
> > molluscs happen to live), i see no cause for taking
> offence or accusing people of being "venom-spitting"
> > miscreants for perhaps stepping on a toe or two. (and
> > "for the record", i do not see many "left-leaning" folks
> > doing their share of the heavy-handed science-bashing
> > going on in our society as a whole....... there does
> indeed seem to be a high degree of correlation between
> > mistrust of and hesitancy to accept the validity of the
> > scientific method in general, and certain varieties of
> ideological stance.) >
> > From a territory where there are no venomous reptiles at
> > all, ross mayhew.
> >
> >
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