Yes indeed; we've got a vested interest in this
species and its coil; see <http://www.jaxshells.org/cornu.htm>.
I'll write off-list.
Thanks,
Harry
At 04:44 PM 7/15/2006, you wrote:
>Harry,
> Would you like a few pictures of this "beast"?
>Dan
>
>
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> >Dear Dan, Hiromi, and Kuma,
> >
> >I collect this kind of thing, and I can say that
> >sinistral Cornu aspersum (Müller, 1774) are
> >infrequent but far from unique. Barry Roth found
> >one in his San Francisco garden, but I never
> >found among the hundreds I culled from my garden
> >there (1970-72). The vast majority of people who
> >can make the L/R-handed diagnosis and who live in
> >immediate proximity of this pest (exception
> >below) share my 0 for 300 experience. My best
> >guess for solitary instances is on the order of 1:1,000 to 1:10,000.
> >
> >There is mention of a colony of sinistrals of
> >this species in Jeffreys (1862: 182). The British
> >malacologist saw this first-hand the garden of
> >Alcide d'Orbigny in Rochelle, France. I have a
> >scan of this passage I could send.
> >
> >After an exhaustive search of your friend's
> >garden for more sinistrals, how about a little
> >captive breeding experiment? Maybe we can
> >recreate the Great d'Orbigny's sinistral cornucopia.
> >
> >Harry
> >
> >Jeffreys, J. G., 1862. British Conchology 2. John
> >Van Voorst, London. frontispiece + cxiv + 1-341 + pls. 1-7.
> >
> >
> >At 02:12 PM 7/15/2006, you wrote:
> >>Dear ALL,
> >> As today is kinda slow, I thought
> that I might get some information
> >>on the sinistrality of helix aspersa. The other day I had a friend drop by
> >>with a beautiful, live adult specimen that he took from his garden. He
> >>said that he generally tosses hundreds of Helix aspersa (Cornu aspersa)
> >>from the garden but this one caught his eye. I photographed his specimen,
> >>but he asked if this was an unusual or rare occurence. So, here I am
> >>again, asking for some "opinions" on the rarity of this specimen.
> >>Dan
> >>
> >>Dan, Hiromi & Kuma Yoshimoto
> >>Eureka, California
> >>U.S.A.
> >
> >Harry G. Lee, M. D.
> >4132 Ortega Forest Dr.
> >Jacksonville, FL 32210 USA
> >voice (904) 389 4049
> >email: [log in to unmask]
> >look at www.jaxshells.org
> >
> ><html>
> ><body>
> >Dear Dan, Hiromi, and Kuma,<br><br>
> >I collect this kind of thing, and I can say that sinistral <u>Cornu</u>
> ><u>aspersum</u> (Müller, 1774) are infrequent but far from unique. Barry
> >Roth found one in his San Francisco garden, but I never found among the
> >hundreds I culled from my garden there (1970-72). The vast majority of
> >people who can make the L/R-handed diagnosis and who live in immediate
> >proximity of this pest (exception below) share my 0 for 300
> >experience. My best guess for <u>solitary</u> instances is on the
> >order of 1:1,000 to 1:10,000.<br><br>
> >There is mention of a colony of sinistrals of this species in Jeffreys
> >(1862: 182). The British malacologist saw this first-hand the garden of
> >Alcide d'Orbigny in Rochelle, France. I have a scan of this passage I
> >could send.<br><br>
> >After an exhaustive search of your friend's garden for more sinistrals,
> >how about a little captive breeding experiment? Maybe we can recreate the
> >Great d'Orbigny's sinistral cornucopia.<br><br>
> >Harry<br><br>
> >Jeffreys, J. G., 1862. <i>British Conchology 2</i>. John Van Voorst,
> >London. frontispiece + cxiv + 1-341 + pls. 1-7.<br><br>
> ><br>
> >At 02:12 PM 7/15/2006, you wrote:<br>
> ><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Dear ALL,<br>
> > As today is kinda slow, I
> >thought that I might get some information<br>
> >on the sinistrality of helix aspersa. The other day I had a friend
> >drop by<br>
> >with a beautiful, live adult specimen that he took from his garden.
> >He<br>
> >said that he generally tosses hundreds of Helix aspersa (Cornu
> >aspersa)<br>
> >from the garden but this one caught his eye. I photographed his
> >specimen,<br>
> >but he asked if this was an unusual or rare occurence. So, here I
> >am<br>
> >again, asking for some "opinions" on the rarity of this
> >specimen.<br>
> >Dan<br><br>
> >Dan, Hiromi & Kuma Yoshimoto<br>
> >Eureka, California<br>
> >U.S.A.</blockquote></body>
> ><br>
> >
> ><body>
> >Harry G. Lee, M. D.<br>
> >4132 Ortega Forest Dr.<br>
> >Jacksonville, FL 32210 USA<br>
> >voice (904) 389 4049<br>
> >email: [log in to unmask]<br>
> >look at
> ><a href="http://www.jaxshells.org/" eudora="autourl"><font size=2>
> >www.jaxshells.org<br>
> ></a></font></body>
> ></html>
>
>Dan, Hiromi & Kuma Yoshimoto
>Eureka, California
>U.S.A.
>
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