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From: "ümit" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: Mystery Greek Terrestrial


> First, Xerocrasa cretica (not Trochoidea anymore) is a rather restricted
> invasive (Mediterranean only) and does show so much polymorphism in the
> outside range (totally white or few faint bands).
>
> Second, rather correct way to put it was saying the pattern is totally of
> pisana. Besides no Helicellinae (-dae) (Hygromiidae is the correct term
> here) is globular in shape.
>
> Candidula observation is interesting. But note that even coastal, it is
not
> a Mediterranean species but an Atlantic one. Indeed, i doubt if they can
> survive summers Theba do and if they get such long dry seasons. Like
> Cernuella and Cochlicellas Theba is a dune dweller on the other hand...
>
> Don't have an idea? Then ask Mediterranean snailers :)
>
> Ümit
> Mostly slugger
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Grebneff" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Mystery Greek Terrestrial
>
>
> > >Most probably the species is Theba pisana. The colourpattern of
> > >Trochoidea cretica (belongs to the Hygromiidae!) is different.
> > >Pisana is widespread in the whole mediterrenean area
> >
> > How DARE you people be right??
> >
> > As I said, these beasties are difficult to identify.
> >
> > According to Vaught and Abbott 1989 Trochoidea is in Helicellidae.
> >
> > It might be of interest to some to hear that Candidula intersecta is
> > alive & well around limestone cliffs in New Zealand. They can be
> > extremely common after rain, even crawling across the bottoms of very
> > small pools, but when it's dry there will be not a sign of any living
> > specimen.
> > --
> > Andrew Grebneff
> > Dunedin
> > New Zealand
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