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Hi Les,

Were the siphonal canals 90degrees to the substrate--or at varying angles?

David Kirsh, LPC, RN

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> On Mar 10, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Leslie Crnkovic <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Siphonal canals up, apices down, was not a random occurrence for V. cabritii, they were virtually all found that way.
> I suppose they sit up to keep out of the muck, ...imagine it is easier to breath that way?
> Les
> 
> From: Conchologists List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Kirsh
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:59 AM
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> Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] Where are the comb murexes?
> 
> Yes, thanks Leslie and Peggy! Your collecting information tends to confirm my suspicions that Vokesimurex spp are not usually common near-shore and their habitats vary. 
> 
> Siphonal canals up, apices down? Hmmm. 
> David Kirsh, LPC, RN
> 
> On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Harry Lee <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Now there's a straightforward and most informative post!!
> 
> Thanks, Peggy.
> Harry
> 
> At 11:13 AM 3/9/2016, Peggy Williams wrote:
> 
> bellegladeensis: We used to find many in the scallop dumps in Cape Canaveral. Presumed sand or rubble bottom where the scallops are found.
> chrysostoma: Venezuela in dumps and shallow sand/mud. Lay eggs together so some get caught in the egg mass. Eaten(!) by natives. Common.
> donmoorei, olssoni: in dumps and on beaches in Venezuela. Not too common. Presumably eaten by natives, taken in sand/mud.
> messorius: Belize, in shallow, sheltered bay, in sand. Often near black sponges. Lay eggs communally (I have photos.) Some months few are found, other a LOT are found.
> rubidus: off Marco Island near Kice Island and others, in peat or sand, intertidal. Not uncommon. You can’t take live shells there any more, but many Marco Shell Club members have gotten lots of nice dead ones.
> ruthae: West Mexico. in shallow sand/mud. Lay eggs communally. We once found an egg mass on shore about three feet in diameter. Everyone of the group of 9 took what they wanted of dead animals, complete with opercs (I took 50) and left one of us sitting on the sand happily removing more. I have found occasional live shells there. On the past three trips I haven’t found many egg masses, and the area where they were common is now fenced off.
> 
> Peggy Williams
> 
> On Mar 8, 2016, at 11:35 PM, David Kirsh <[log in to unmask] > wrote:
> 
> I'm wondering in what habitats  collectors in the west Atlantic have found the Vokesimurex species, especially near shore ones. (I've found Murex occa and trapa live on mudflats in Thailand). 
> In my admittedly limited experience, V. rubidus, cabritii and all the rest are not frequent.
> What habitats have others found these, and in what numbers?
> David Kirsh
> Durham, NC
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