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Photos by Conchology, Inc., all from the Philippines:

http://tinyurl.com/qyffxuf
http://tinyurl.com/ptjdyc3
http://tinyurl.com/mnaexxy

James

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Rick Negus <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> None of the examples below are like my two shells.
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Conchologists List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Martin Eastburn
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 3:27 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] Harpa gracilis protoconch colour
>
> While living on Kwajalein, we collected Harpa amouretta in 1963 and qualified it in 3 of our books.
> Martin Eastburn
>
> On 1/14/2015 8:34 AM, Chong Chen wrote:
>> Thanks Marlo. I have seen a great variety in the form of H. amouretta
>> including the slender form as well as various intermediates.
>>
>> A quick google search will reveal a number of slender specimens, for
>> example http://www.gastropods.com/2/Shell_122.shtml
>> http://koghisberg.com/?p=3944
>> http://www.schnr-specimen-shells.com/35649.JPG
>> http://www.conchology.be/?t=68&u=886353&g=1b0cd83e15aaddada2c0195478bc
>> 058b&q=c87e7c3942ff38191e699c6a2fcdff89
>> http://www.marinelifephotography.com/marine/mollusks/gastropods/olives
>> /harpa-amouretta.htm
>> http://www.shellbrothers.be/images/Harpidae/amouretta%20Indonesia%201,
>> 5%20(2).JPG
>>
>> The specimens range all the way from eastern Africa to Hawaii -- it is
>> only a form of H. amouretta.
>>
>> Regarding H. kolaceki, I would agree that it is only a form of H.
>> amouretta as well.
>>
>> Best,
>> Chong
>>
>> 2015-01-14 14:22 GMT+00:00  <[log in to unmask]>:
>>> I have to go with H. amouretta for Rick's shells.  I've documented this conversation on LTS (http://z14.invisionfree.com/Conchologist_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2894) with Rick's photos (and permission) and added photos of a H. amouretta from the Solomons in my collection.  While there are are some overall shape differences, with my shell more closely resembling forma crassa, I cannot see how Rick's shells can be distinguished as other than a normal, local, regional variation for the species.
>>>
>>> marlo
>>>
>>> ---- Tom Eichhorst <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> I agree with Rick.  While the shells he illustrated may not be H.
>>>> gracilis, they are certainly unlike any of the H. amouretta I have
>>>> (another 30 specimens to that 50).
>>>>
>>>> Tom E.
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