what punishment shall be doled out to the expert who made this glaring
misjudgment?  when will we  start demanding taxonomic accountability?
who will reimburse all the institutions and individuals forced to
commit valuable time and resources to making these changes to their
collections and lots  initially, and then un-making these changes
based on shoddy detective work?  Should the  "reparations"  arguments
currently  circulating culturally apply here?  should any other names
(or buildings or statues) bearing the names of these so-called experts
be changed back to their native usage?

On 9/20/22, Moshe Erlendur Okon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I was only teasing... But I am open for exchanging shells.
>
> On Tue, 20 Sept 2022 at 18:17, Scott Robichaud <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Just for the record, I never meant to be the proponent of common names.
>> When I wrote it it was almost a tongue-in-cheek comment poking fun at
>> common names but realizing how often they were used in the last week or 2
>> on ConchL  to talk about new names for the pear whelks, lightning whelks,
>> and Florida cones. My colleagues know that I use Latin names a lot more
>> than common names, For one, most of the worldwide shells I deal with on a
>> day-to-day basis don’t even have common names. But like Dan said in this
>> business we have to learn to be bilingual. If I have some students on the
>> beach of Cape Cod and I yell out that I found a Busycon
>> carica, I’m going to get a lot of WHAT???. If I say I found a knobbed
>> whelk everyone will know what I’m talking about.
>> About five years ago I had a group of five from Florida, and they were
>> all
>> finding shark eye moon snails on the beach, and I was employing them to
>> learn the name Neverita duplicata. I even made it into a little song so
>> they could try to remember it. Some of those five individuals are
>> probably
>> reading this right now on ConchL. So please don’t think I am a proponent
>> of
>> common names, but they do have their place in our society.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 10:37 AM, William Bennight <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I’m surprised that Ed Petuch  hasn’t weighed in on this discussion. Or
>> did I miss his input.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 9:58 AM, Moshe Erlendur Okon, conchologist <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Shalom Scott. Right on: "Without common names, nobody would know what
>> anybody was talking about..."
>> So, I would be happy to exchange two Hairy Nuns with you for a nice
>> Golden
>> Cowrie.
>> Best wishes, and a happy 5783 new year to all.
>>
>> On Mon, 19 Sept 2022 at 18:01, Scott Robichaud <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Well it’s a good thing we still have the common names to fall back on or
>>> nobody would know what anybody was talking about. Florida cone is still
>>> a
>>> Florida cone, A pear whelk is still a pear whelk, and a lightning whelk
>>> is
>>> still a lightning whelk. The genus has changed and the species has
>>> changed
>>> but the common name has stayed constant. That was certainly not the
>>> plan.
>>> But for the last 55 years that I’ve been identifying shells those common
>>> names did not budge an inch, but the Latin names that are supposed to
>>> stay
>>> constant are all over the map. I know I’m not the only one who’s noticed
>>> this.
>>> Scott
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>
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