A fair amount of discussion online now about the possible effects of
the impending Hurricane Michael on the red tide.....three trains of
thought
winds from the storm could help blow the red tide offshore and disperse it
OR
winds could come from the opposite direction and move it closer to shore
AND/OR
fear that heavy rain will cause more nutrient runoff and re-feed the red tide.
On 10/8/18, Clair Beckmann <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Yep. Massive kills of tons picked up. But it’s been six weeks since the huge
> stench and die offs.
>
> Sent from my iPhone without schpel check
>
>
>> On Oct 8, 2018, at 9:48 AM, David Kirsh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Clair, that’s good news for Sanibel at least. I thought Sanibel
>> had gotten massive fish kills in recent weeks.
>>
>> David Kirsh, LPC, RN
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 6, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Clair Beckmann <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> As of the local news last night Red Tide was in Charlotte Harbor and Ft
>>> Myers beach at moderate levels. No red tide on Sanibel or Causeway
>>> Islands. I have seen no major mollusk mortality here on sanibel.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone without schpel check
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, steve rosenthal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Harry et al,
>>>>
>>>> As Harry knows, I am not in fastidious edit mode when I type emails,
>>>> especially on a small keyboard on a small computer with a tricky
>>>> caps/cap lock key..... However any taxonomic (Latin) errors are to be
>>>> ascribed elsewhere as the bulk of my email was a cut and paste from
>>>> the FWC red tide report.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the actual impacts of the red tide, perhaps Ken Piech or
>>>> others can comment if there continues to be any unusual apparent
>>>> molluscan mortality down there still.
>>>>
>>>> SR
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/5/18, José H. Leal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> "Basionym *Gymnodinium breve* ..."
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>>> As of the local news last night Red Tide was in Charlotte Harbor and Ft
>>> Myers beach at moderate levels. No red tide on Sanibel or Causeway
>>> Islands. I have seen no major mollusk mortality here on sanibel.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone without schpel check
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, steve rosenthal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Harry et al,
>>>>
>>>> As Harry knows, I am not in fastidious edit mode when I type emails,
>>>> especially on a small keyboard on a small computer with a tricky
>>>> caps/cap lock key..... However any taxonomic (Latin) errors are to be
>>>> ascribed elsewhere as the bulk of my email was a cut and paste from
>>>> the FWC red tide report.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the actual impacts of the red tide, perhaps Ken Piech or
>>>> others can comment if there continues to be any unusual apparent
>>>> molluscan mortality down there still.
>>>>
>>>> SR
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/5/18, José H. Leal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> "Basionym *Gymnodinium breve* ..."
>>>>> _______________________________________________________
>>>>> José H. Leal, Ph.D., Science Director & Curator
>>>>> Bailey-Matthews National Shell Museum
>>>>> Editor, The Nautilus
>>>>>
>>>>> 3075 Sanibel-Captiva Road
>>>>> Sanibel, FL 33957 USA
>>>>> (239)395-2233
>>>>>
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>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 12:22 PM Harry Lee <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Steve,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One wonders how come you go to the trouble of to capitalizing the
>>>>>> words
>>>>>> "Red Tide" and "NOT" but not "i," "steven," and "rosenthal." Have you
>>>>>> developed a double standard or is it metaphoric modesty?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I take it another of your begrudged capital letters, "K." [no italics
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> simulate what may be a keyboard or programmatic shortcoming] stands
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> *Karenia
>>>>>> *<http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=233015>
>>>>>> <http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=233015>, the
>>>>>> genus into which the principal red tide agent (basionym *Gymnodidium
>>>>>> breve* Davis, 1948; e.g., <http://www.jaxshells.org/mollusk2.htm>
>>>>>> <http://www.jaxshells.org/mollusk2.htm>) has been transferred. Note
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> the the nomenclatorial convention used for the Kingdom Chromista,
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> of that of our botanist buddies, exalt the author who placed the
>>>>>> species-level taxon in the currently-accepted genus and relegate the
>>>>>> guy
>>>>>> who did the original heavy-lifting to parentheses. Those who demean
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> complexities of the International Code of *Zoological* [emphasis
>>>>>> added]
>>>>>> Nomenclature should be thankful they're not operating under the
>>>>>> cumbersome
>>>>>> constraints of those taxonomists working with non-animal biota.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your grammatical gadfly/conchological cohort,
>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/4/2018 5:38 PM, steve rosenthal wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> re Red Tides - the FLorida wildlife commision (FWC) issues a weekly
>>>>>> report, you can access it by googling "Florida Red Tide Report"> I
>>>>>> will past the most recent one below (Atlantic coast is indeed
>>>>>> mentioned) that i just looked up. Note that various sites for Lee
>>>>>> County offer info on Red Tides, one i viewed recently implied that
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> was well, but its NOT according to the FWC site... i would NOT trust
>>>>>> anything that is coming from local sites with a commercial stake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Red Tide Mid-Week Update for October 3, 2018
>>>>>> Current Conditions
>>>>>> A bloom of the Florida red tide organism, Karenia brevis, persists in
>>>>>> Southwest Florida and extends along ~135 miles of coastline, from
>>>>>> northern Pinellas to northern Collier counties, and offshore (10
>>>>>> miles
>>>>>> or more). A patchy bloom of K. brevis continues in Northwest Florida.
>>>>>> A bloom of K. brevis was also observed on Florida’s East Coast for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> first time this past week. Additional details are provided below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Over the past week in Southwest Florida, K. brevis concentrations
>>>>>> generally decreased in areas of Manatee, Sarasota, Charlotte, Lee and
>>>>>> Collier counties, creating patchier bloom conditions along the coast.
>>>>>> Observations of >1,000,000 K. brevis cells per liter (“high”
>>>>>> concentrations) occurred in Pinellas, Hillsborough, Sarasota, and Lee
>>>>>> counties and >10 miles offshore of Hillsborough County, but at fewer
>>>>>> sites relative to last week.
>>>>>> In Northwest Florida, K. brevis was observed in or offshore of
>>>>>> Okaloosa, Walton, Bay, Gulf, and Pasco counties, with up to “medium”
>>>>>> concentrations observed in Bay County and offshore of Walton County.
>>>>>> On the East Coast, K. brevis was observed in St. Lucie, Martin and
>>>>>> Palm Beach counties; up to “medium” concentrations occurred only in
>>>>>> and offshore of Palm Beach County.
>>>>>> Fish Kills
>>>>>> In Southwest Florida, reports of fish kills were received for
>>>>>> multiple
>>>>>> locations in Pinellas, Manatee, Sarasota, Charlotte, Lee and Collier
>>>>>> counties. In Northwest Florida, reports of fish kills were received
>>>>>> for areas in and/or offshore of Okaloosa, Walton, Bay, Gulf and
>>>>>> Franklin counties. Along the East Coast of Florida, reports of fish
>>>>>> kills were received for St. Lucie and Palm Beach counties.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Respiratory Irritation
>>>>>> Respiratory irritation was reported in Southwest Florida (in
>>>>>> Pinellas,
>>>>>> Manatee, Sarasota, Lee and Collier counties) and along the East Coast
>>>>>> of Florida (in Palm Beach and St. Lucie counties) over the past week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Forecast
>>>>>> Forecasts by the USF-FWC Collaboration for Prediction of Red
>>>>>> TidesExternal Website for Pinellas to northern Monroe counties
>>>>>> predict
>>>>>> northwestern transport of surface waters and net southeastern
>>>>>> movement
>>>>>> of subsurface waters for most areas over the next three days.
>>>>>> Three-day forecasts for Northwest Florida predict minimal net
>>>>>> transport of surface waters and northeastern movement of subsurface
>>>>>> waters from Escambia to western Gulf counties. Forecasts for Pasco
>>>>>> County predict northwestern transport of surface waters and eastern
>>>>>> movement of subsurface waters over the next 3 days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The next complete red tide status report will be posted on Friday,
>>>>>> October
>>>>>> 5th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Red Tide Status Map (October 3, 2018)
>>>>>> 09-25-10-02.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/4/18, Karlynn Morgan <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to reports I've received, Portsmouth, Ocracoke and
>>>>>> Shackleford
>>>>>> Islands are open. I've seen photos of a huge beach haul from
>>>>>> Portsmouth. No Red Tide reports from NC - Good Luck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Karlynn
>>>>>> NC - USA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/4/2018 5:06 PM, David Kirsh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Listers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone been to the NC coastline post Florence? In the last week
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> so?
>>>>>> Are there places that are passable for collecting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a different area: I saw one report that the Red Tide on Florida’s
>>>>>> southwest is not only severe and continuing but is forecast to
>>>>>> possibly
>>>>>> last into the winter tourist season. I also heard another report that
>>>>>> Red
>>>>>> Tide has reached the Atlantic Coast. Have others heard about this
>>>>>> continuing through the winter months?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Kirsh, LPC, RN
>>>>>>
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